[Update: Review is no longer canon due to v2 and :reasons:.] If fansubbing is a race to the bottom, WhyNot’s winning.
Table of Contents
Release Information
Episode details.
Release format: MKV (356 MB, 10-bit)
Japanesiness: I wish the subs were in Japanese so I could at least pretend they matched what was being said.
English style: Not applicable.
Encoding details: http://pastebin.com/gPtD5PxJ
Speed: Quick (<48 hours)
External links.
Group website: http://whynotsubs.com/
IRC channel: #[email protected]
Fansub.co screenshot comparisons: http://fansub.co/yahari-ore-no-seishun-love-come-wa-machigatteiru/
Subbusu screenshot comparisons: http://www.subbusu.com/series/orenoseishun.html
Visual Review
Karaoke.
Opening. No, I’m afraid that white text with a black outline doesn’t qualify as anything other than “okay”.
Rating: Okay.
Opening. See above.
Rating: Okay.
Typesetting.
I’m not really gonna spend much time on the typesetting, cuz the script is calling for me. But WhyNot’s typesetting is decent for the most part, although conspicuously missing in a few places where you’d expect it.
Typeset:
Skipped:
Script Review
Main Script.
As is your Englishes.
Dear readers, you’re gonna want to buckle in for this one. It’s a bumpy road, paved in tears and failure.
Oh, poor WhyNot. Did you never learn how to conditional? It’s okay, Dark_Sage is here to help.
The proper tensing for this sentence is “If I were to be reborn I would definitely want to be a bear.”
Similarly, if I were a doctor, I would definitely want to euthanize your editor.
Well it’s pretty clear you’re not an English teacher.
“nowhere” is one word, you dip shits.
I’d be much grateful if you worked on your Englishing. Gibberish is one of my pet peeves.
They say what they really think. They don’t say what they really think together.
Oh come the fuck on, WhyNot.
There are starving kids in Africa that are dying of AIDS and malaria right now. And yet the only thing I wish for is that WhyNot’s editor was counted among their ranks.
Well.
Is there some sort of irony award for this?
A terrible trinity. :*
Oh WhyNot, never change.
Care to bet on that?
That second screen really hurts to read.
Why did you capitalize light novel? It’s a Common Noun, Guys.
This is not even close to meeting any of the standards for something to qualify as a sentence.
Yeah, WhyNot doesn’t really, understand, how to use commas, in this release.
Beautiful.
Hardly any of these lines even need commentary — they’re terrible enough to stand on their own. So why even comment?
Because I fucking enjoy it.
Please don’t.
You are in delusion, WhyNot.
I would’ve at least figured you’d get this one right.
I am indeed overwhelmed, WhyNot.
Results
Watchability: Unwatchable.
Visual grade: Who cares
Script grade: F
Overall grade: F
Note: WhyNot released a v2 a few hours ago after Solaristics yelled at them for their piss-poor performance. But I’d already written most of this review, so I was not about to scrap my post. Maybe I can get talked into a re-review once this group gets its shit together.
So what happened? According to WhyNot’s site, this wasn’t QC’d. But if a group is throwing a shitty script like this at a QC, something’s terribly, terribly wrong. QCs should not have to rewrite an entire script. I’d be very wary of watching their Yahari if this is really what they pass off to the one QC.
Since there are five other groups subbing this show, watching WhyNot’s seems like a risk not worth taking. But if your brand loyalty overrides your logic, feel free to roll those dice.
>Come here to steal lines
>Have to do original work again
that feeling
“Opening. No, I’m afraid that white text with a black outline doesn’t quality as anything other than “okay”.”
wot.
Quality? Or did you mean qualify? ;)
:x
Hey You mentioned in your review of hadenas fan sub of c3 to use another fansub instead but I can’t find anything other than hadena. Do you know of any other groups who have subbed it? No matter how hard I search it seems like the only thing people have up is hadena, They have a freaking monopoly on that anime or something. PLEASE if you know of any otheres, any others at all who have subbed c3 TELL ME. PLEASE.
You mustn’t have looked very hard. Try UTW’s release.
Let’s be serious
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=314196
33gb…Are you shitting me LOL?
Let’s be serious
We srs now
Where’s the like button.
http://puu.sh/2zOJa
I know, right? Coalgirls could have easily bloated the files by *at least* a few more gigs. Hell, they could even upscale for those practically pointless 4K tellies and get into TB big releases. Sometimes I think they’re not even trying anymore.
Let’s be serious.
You’re pretty lively these days, what’s the matter?
A deep-seated enmity towards levity, evidently.
He’s taking things seriously now.
Listen I just want to be serious
Let’s be serious
About what?
u know
See, this is what happens when QCs think they are glorified backup editors.
The editor is just some scrub practicing to QC anyway, right? My word is what counts.
There… was no editor.
That explains quite a bit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve lost confidence in WhyNot after the first two… less than perfect (well, maybe even bad) releases. That being said, there were a number of issues that resulted in subpar quality. (Missing TLC, editors, QC, typesetters, etc.) These issues appear to be resolved for the foreseeable future. If you haven’t lost all faith, check episode 3, it should be better.
Also, check out the v2. Yes, it was delayed. Yes, there are still problems. But many of the worst issues that you pointed out here have been fixed.
>But many of the worst issues that you pointed out here have been fixed.
You must be joking. A quick peek at the script (God bless AnimeTosho) shows that the two most egregious errors pointed out here–“quire” and the conditional tense failure–are still in the v2. Awkward sentence structure or redundancies that weren’t pruned are one thing, but that’s bush league. Of course, whether that’s a failure on the the part of the QC or the editor/qcapply… we’ll never know.
>> half the staff doesn’t show up
>> release on schedule as if they showed up anyway
Wait, why?
*puts on shades*
WhyNot?
YEEEEAAAAAAAAHH
This is the problem with modern fansubbing. You guys should just take a week like we do – it won’t hurt anyone :D
And then drop it like it’s hot.
Yeah, you *wish* it was a week.
Worry not. The v2 has plenty of issues too.
That said, it’s not F tier.
>Maybe I can get talked into a re-review once this group gets its shit together.
Maybe after these guys v3.
>But if a group is throwing a shitty script like this at a QC, something’s terribly, terribly wrong. QCs should not have to rewrite an entire script.
Let’s lower the bar a little bit: QCs should not have to function as the spellchecker. Aegisub has a built-in one, and it has the red squiggles turned on by default. Typoing into another word? Fine, QCs can take care of that. But if even Aegisub recognizes it as a mistake, it should be taken care of before it gets any further downstream.
Also, *cough*.
I think almost everybody here is hungry for the next hilarious Hadena-like review. I also think this post filled those shoes pretty well.
“According to WhyNot’s site, this wasn’t QC’d”
Lol. An excuse straight out of the ol’ Hadena playbook.
D_S plz do Aiura review, i am waiting for this or else i can’t watch a shit without a thoughts like “what if immah watching SHITTY SUBS RITE FUCKING NOW SWEET JESUS THIS IS HORRIBLE” etc. plz do it, spare me from this suffering, almightey D_S!
Aiura’s a 4-minute show, 2 minutes of which is taken up by OP/ED, and 20 seconds of which is actual dialogue. Trust me, you could watch the damn thing raw.
Well, if you say so, then it must be okay.
Honestly speaking i thought there were some jokes in this show, and those afaik are the most hard-to-get-it-right pieces in the whole translation business. But duh, whatever.
Thank you anyway, based D_S!
Because you can’t work it out for yourself if the sub you’re watching is shitty? :s
Because i don’t know japanese sufficiently for judging this even for myself.
Pssssst, Dark_Sage doesn’t know Japanese either.
He’s probably seen enough anime to USO DA that
Though, sometimes (and I mean sometimes) I feel that it’s better not knowing.
Just imagine English subtitles for an English show that are different from what is being said. Ya. It fucks up the viewing experience pretty bad.
…and before anyone asks, sadly, my comprehension level is still not high enough for me to confidently watch the more complex shows raw.
I wouldn’t know this guy even if I did.
But, you know?
I may have been like in the past.
Delicious.
Yui reminds me of Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun’s Natsume.
I don’t have anything to add to the discussion.
Laughed pretty hard at this review. Even when I went through their script, I didn’t laugh this much XDD.
lol and people complained that their Ep.01 was crap. that’ll teach ’em.
This would be fun to a party on bc seriously all the fansubs on this show suck in one way or another. Hard press to find a clear leader.
http://www.crymore.net/2013/04/07/translation-party-commie-vs-fff-vs-nwtc-vs-whynot-yahari-ore-no-seishun-love-come-wa-machigatteiru-episode-01/
enjoy
Just pick mine ’cause I have a cute avatar.
There ya go.
Dude…wtf? JUST WTF HAPPENED HERE??!!
Honest to God’s name my heart literally started aching after going halfway through those pics T_T
Might wanna see your GP about that, man. Do you have a history of hypertension?