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If this isn’t the review you were looking for, blame denpa.

<&Dark_Sage> Gimme a number 1-4
<denpa> 4
<rarely_upset> 3
<HeavenlyArmed> 2
<mints> 1
<&Dark_Sage> And denpa’s choice is… Hatsuyuki
<denpa> lol hatsu
<&Dark_Sage> Lucky you guys, you get a Hatsuyuki review.
<HeavenlyArmed> dammit denpa
<HeavenlyArmed> you always ruin everything

Will Heavenly eat crow? Will Hatsu end up being the greatest fansub group of all time? Find out… on this episode of Dark_Sage’s Unhealthy Obsession With Proper English.

Release Information

Visual Quality

Script Quality

Results

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (266 MB, 10-bit), MP4/AVI later

Japanesiness: Honorifics. “Senpai” used.

English style: American English.

Encoding details: http://pastebin.com/m97xrXFd

Speed: Slow (>48 hours)

External links.

Group website: http://hatsuyuki-fansubs.com/

IRC channel: #[email protected]

Fansub.co screenshot comparisons: http://fansub.co/hentai-ouji-to-warawanai-neko/

Subbusu screenshot comparisons: http://www.subbusu.com/view.php?id=15

Visual Review

Karaoke.

Opening. While I enjoyed the color choice, the effect was hard to like. The bouncing cat icon was a perfect idea, but the ears aren’t visible half the time, making it awkward to watch. Had Hatsuyuki made the bouncing cat head smaller and limited its reach to the very tip of the top screen, it would have been Great. As-is, it’s only a crossed Okay.

Rating: Okay+.

Ending. I’d like this better if it weren’t getting in the way of the credits all the time, though I suppose there’s not much Hatsuyuki can do to stop that. And matching the colors would be problematic in this instance, with everything blurring together, so it can’t be helped they changed to an off-credits green.

The k-timing was pretty kawaii at least.

Rating: Okay+.

Typesetting.

The “Ha” bounces when the “Oo” does. Nice touch.

Hatsuyuki went out of their way to typeset minor signs. Impressive effort.

All the main signs were handled acceptably as well. Pretty much everything was typeset.

So the visuals crew did their part. What about the team that got put on the script? All seven of them, that is. (Tobikage, Chrouya, tyl, Chippo, Detharte, sobeit, Khaleel78)

Let’s find out.

Script Review

Main Script.

You would only phrase this sentence as such if you were trying to get across that they aren’t blood relatives and (by extension) have different parents.

“After we lost our parents when I was very young, I got even closer to my sister.”

I do believe it actually can be.

I don’t get it.

That’s not the full story.

“then there’s no problem punishing you now.”

Yes, it’s implied by the scene, but if you left everything to implications, you wouldn’t have a script left.

1-in-256. lrn2adjective.

Indeed, it matters. Not that much, but it still matters.

One more “do” and we could have the start to a pretty sweet song.

…

Lemme just check some of the other groups’ subs that I have:

gg: Smiles for Kids

HorribleSubs/Chihiro/Eveyuu: Child Welfare Club

rori: Youth Service Club

All right, majority of groups, I get that “welfare” can mean “looking out for childrens’ well-being”, but when you talk about children’s welfare in the US, nine times out of ten, people ain’t gonna think of playing around with kiddies.

gg’s translation, while coming totally out of left field, fits the idea the best. There’s no question as to the purpose of the club. With the others, it depends. And I can’t say I’m in favor of that ambiguity here.

Oh shit. Looks like we do have a song on our hands.

do do do~

Fuck yeah, those are some rocking tunes. Thanks for fucking up, Hatsuyuki.

won’t -> wouldn’t

Tenses.

Just subs, just add just.

Again, you don’t capitalize this.

“The Massachusetts Athletics Department is a good athletics department.”

See the difference?

What is going on here?

day, and not just

That’s my patch for this, but I get the feeling this lines needs more of an overhaul.

“Ever since that day, Tsutsukakushi has been acting cold toward me, and not just with her tone of voice.”

second-years

Results

Watchability: Watchable.

Visual grade: A-

Script grade: C

Overall grade: B-

Seven people on a script and this is the best you could come up with? Forgive me if I’m unimpressed, Hatsuyuki. You have the best release so far, but unless the other groups also pour washer fluid on their cereal, I doubt it’ll be that way for long.
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28 thoughts on “Fansub Review: [Hatsuyuki] Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko (Episode 04)”

This styling is eyecancer. :(

Dark_Sage

May 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm

I’ve grown immune to it. ;_;
Reply
- Fyurie
  
  May 6, 2013 at 10:38 pm
  
  Too much Hadena?
  
  I feel your pain. ;_;
  Reply
Aaron

May 7, 2013 at 12:18 am

Oh, you mean the font? I found it too be kinda bad as well.
Reply
Naru

May 7, 2013 at 2:10 am

Sleep likes that font.
Reply
- Fyurie
  
  May 7, 2013 at 9:53 am
  
  Doesn’t make it nice, though.
  Reply
- Ryuk
  
  May 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm
  
  It’s pretty bad. These type of fonts aren’t made for main dialog.
  Reply

“Found out… on this episode of …”

Learning from Hatsuyuki?

I’d say that the original Japanese script itself is pretty subpar. Unless the TL is pretty good at churning out a quality script, the editor has to spend a considerable amount of time to fix and Americanize it.

Goddammit, I missed 1-in-256 too.

Oh yeah, and that last line probably has a TL error anyway. Isn’t MC-kun a second-year student already?

>> “Ever since that day, Tsutsukakushi has been acting cold toward me, and not just with her tone of voice.”

By context, I’d guess that he was referring to her words rather than her tone (which seems uniformly flat since the first episode), so I’m not really convinced there. *shrugs* Just a guesslation.

>Six people on a Crunchy script and this is the best you could come up with?

It’s an original TL.

May 7, 2013 at 11:06 am

Why the fuck do groups do original TLs for CR shows? What is the fucking point?
Reply
- kokujin-kun
  
  May 7, 2013 at 4:10 pm
  
  Tell me about it TT_TT
  Reply
- etocetera
  
  May 7, 2013 at 5:05 pm
  
  I’d much rather every group did an original translation rather than rip from CR, it leads to more diversity, which is kinda neat.
  
  When everyone uses the CR script, it feels a lot more like only one “group” is subbing the show, whereas if people do independent translations, it feels like there’s an actual competition going on.
  
  And I think that’s kinda cool. Actually, I care about that more than I care about the quality of the script, because I’m weird.
  Reply
  - Dark_Sage
    
    May 7, 2013 at 5:07 pm
    
    You’re not alone. There are quite a few purists out there who will only grab original translations if at all possible.
    Reply
- Pelfmiester
  
  May 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
  
  Because CR sucks.
  Reply
- HeavenlyArmed
  
  May 8, 2013 at 2:49 pm
  
  Because CR latecasts as opposed to simulcasting for a lot of shows.
  Reply
- returnity
  
  May 9, 2013 at 1:04 am
  
  Because fansubbing isn’t QUITE dead yet… Also latecasts.
  Reply
Dark_Sage

May 7, 2013 at 11:14 am

Oh shit, you’re right.
Reply

Excuse me, when is it that we should write “towards” and “toward”? Thank you.

Dark_Sage

May 7, 2013 at 11:15 am

Never use “towards” unless you’re using the inferior language known as British English.
Reply
- FalseDawn
  
  May 7, 2013 at 6:02 pm
  
  Superior*
  Reply
- Sour
  
  June 7, 2013 at 12:49 am
  
  So it’s always “towards” in British and “toward” in American English.
  Reply
  - returnity
    
    June 7, 2013 at 3:01 am
    
    Essentially yes.
    Reply

I think the Santa one is just a lame joke in Japanese – like, he makes lists of good and bad kids, but MC-chin was *so bad* in his exam that he even made Santa faint.

I don’t think you can blame Hatsuyuki for a somewhat tenuous joke in the Japanese (depends what other groups have for it, I guess).

Second point: The capped list at the beginning – isn’t she reeling off classes? I know they’re not History 101, but when they’re subjects in school, you generally do capitalise them in my experience, because it’s referring to the class itself rather than the overall subject.

Compare and contrast:

“I’ve got literature after lunch.”
“I’ve got Literature after lunch.”

WithoutAnyDecency

May 7, 2013 at 10:27 am

If the class name is just “Literature” then you could capitalise it. But if you’re referring to the general subject of study, “literature”, then you don’t capitalise it.
Reply
Dark_Sage

May 7, 2013 at 11:18 am

Hm, that makes sense to me. Updated.
Reply

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Fyurie

May 6, 2013 at 10:32 pm

This styling is eyecancer. :(
- Dark_Sage
  
  May 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm
  
  I’ve grown immune to it. ;_;
  - Fyurie
    
    May 6, 2013 at 10:38 pm
    
    Too much Hadena?
    
    I feel your pain. ;_;
- Aaron
  
  May 7, 2013 at 12:18 am
  
  Oh, you mean the font? I found it too be kinda bad as well.
- Naru
  
  May 7, 2013 at 2:10 am
  
  Sleep likes that font.
  - Fyurie
    
    May 7, 2013 at 9:53 am
    
    Doesn’t make it nice, though.
  - Ryuk
    
    May 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    
    It’s pretty bad. These type of fonts aren’t made for main dialog.
Cy

May 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm

“Found out… on this episode of …”

Learning from Hatsuyuki?
Vanth

May 6, 2013 at 11:21 pm

I’d say that the original Japanese script itself is pretty subpar. Unless the TL is pretty good at churning out a quality script, the editor has to spend a considerable amount of time to fix and Americanize it.
temp_late

May 6, 2013 at 11:36 pm

Goddammit, I missed 1-in-256 too.

Oh yeah, and that last line probably has a TL error anyway. Isn’t MC-kun a second-year student already?

>> “Ever since that day, Tsutsukakushi has been acting cold toward me, and not just with her tone of voice.”

By context, I’d guess that he was referring to her words rather than her tone (which seems uniformly flat since the first episode), so I’m not really convinced there. *shrugs* Just a guesslation.
Hairy

May 7, 2013 at 12:52 am

>Six people on a Crunchy script and this is the best you could come up with?

It’s an original TL.
- May 7, 2013 at 11:06 am
  
  Why the fuck do groups do original TLs for CR shows? What is the fucking point?
  - kokujin-kun
    
    May 7, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    
    Tell me about it TT_TT
  - etocetera
    
    May 7, 2013 at 5:05 pm
    
    I’d much rather every group did an original translation rather than rip from CR, it leads to more diversity, which is kinda neat.
    
    When everyone uses the CR script, it feels a lot more like only one “group” is subbing the show, whereas if people do independent translations, it feels like there’s an actual competition going on.
    
    And I think that’s kinda cool. Actually, I care about that more than I care about the quality of the script, because I’m weird.
    - Dark_Sage
      
      May 7, 2013 at 5:07 pm
      
      You’re not alone. There are quite a few purists out there who will only grab original translations if at all possible.
  - Pelfmiester
    
    May 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
    
    Because CR sucks.
  - HeavenlyArmed
    
    May 8, 2013 at 2:49 pm
    
    Because CR latecasts as opposed to simulcasting for a lot of shows.
  - returnity
    
    May 9, 2013 at 1:04 am
    
    Because fansubbing isn’t QUITE dead yet… Also latecasts.
- Dark_Sage
  
  May 7, 2013 at 11:14 am
  
  Oh shit, you’re right.
Sour

May 7, 2013 at 1:08 am

Excuse me, when is it that we should write “towards” and “toward”? Thank you.
- Dark_Sage
  
  May 7, 2013 at 11:15 am
  
  Never use “towards” unless you’re using the inferior language known as British English.
  - FalseDawn
    
    May 7, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    
    Superior*
  - Sour
    
    June 7, 2013 at 12:49 am
    
    So it’s always “towards” in British and “toward” in American English.
    - returnity
      
      June 7, 2013 at 3:01 am
      
      Essentially yes.
FalseDawn

May 7, 2013 at 6:02 am

I think the Santa one is just a lame joke in Japanese – like, he makes lists of good and bad kids, but MC-chin was *so bad* in his exam that he even made Santa faint.

I don’t think you can blame Hatsuyuki for a somewhat tenuous joke in the Japanese (depends what other groups have for it, I guess).
FalseDawn

May 7, 2013 at 6:04 am

Second point: The capped list at the beginning – isn’t she reeling off classes? I know they’re not History 101, but when they’re subjects in school, you generally do capitalise them in my experience, because it’s referring to the class itself rather than the overall subject.

Compare and contrast:

“I’ve got literature after lunch.”
“I’ve got Literature after lunch.”
- WithoutAnyDecency
  
  May 7, 2013 at 10:27 am
  
  If the class name is just “Literature” then you could capitalise it. But if you’re referring to the general subject of study, “literature”, then you don’t capitalise it.
- Dark_Sage
  
  May 7, 2013 at 11:18 am
  
  Hm, that makes sense to me. Updated.

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