This post was written by Dark_Sage. He is Dark_Sage.
Productivity levels: maxed. Now I just need to keep this up for the next 3 months. I’m sure I will.
Translation Party House Rules:
Noragami – Episode 01
Comparisons: 9 or 16
Yes, the number of comparisons was cut down this go around. It’s hard to find meaningful differences when all the groups just release minor edits of the official script.
Participants:
DameDesuYo
FFF
HorribleSubs
Sekinin
Codes:
{\i1} indicates the start of italics
{\i0} indicates the close of italics
Essential 1.
This isn’t much in the show, probably because they assumed you were going into this knowing that it was just a shitty ripoff of every supernatural anime ever, but that monster there grows off people’s negative energy.
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DameDesuYo :: Wait, doesn’t this Ayakashi seem especially large?
>It is exam season. Everyone’s on edge.
>With you, this’ll be a cinch.
FFF :: Hey, doesn’t this Phantom seem unusually large?
>Well, it {\i1}is{\i0} exam season. They’re all pretty stressed out.
>With you here, this will be a walk in the park.
HorribleSubs :: Wait, doesn’t this Phantom seem especially large?
>It {\i1}is{\i0} exam season. Everyone’s on edge.
>With you, this’ll be a cinch.
Sekinin :: Wait, doesn’t this Phantom seem abnormally large?
>Well, it {\i1}is{\i0} exam season. Everyone’s shitting their pants.
>But it’s fine, I’ve got this as long as you’re with me.
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 2.
This chick is like one of Yato’s servants… technically. She doesn’t much like the job.
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DameDesuYo :: Living like a vagrant with a minor god who doesn’t even have a shrine…
Every fiber of my being screams, “No!”
FFF :: Living like a vagrant with a minor god who doesn’t even have a shrine…
Every fiber of my being is screaming in protest!
HorribleSubs :: Living like a vagrant with a minor god who doesn’t even have a shrine…
Every fiber of my being screams, “No!”
Sekinin :: Living with some small-time god with no shrine like I’m some kind of hobo…
just makes me wanna shout “No!” from the top of my lungs!
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 3.
So she quits, closing that door like a boss.
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DameDesuYo :: Thanks for nothing,
you jobless, tracksuit-wearing drifter who calls himself a god!
FFF :: Thanks for nothing,
you jobless, sweats-wearing bum who calls himself a god!
HorribleSubs :: Thanks for nothing,
you jobless, jersey-wearing drifter who calls himself a god!
Sekinin :: Thanks for nothing,
you jobless, god role-playing, tracksuit-wearing drifter!
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 4.
And since she quit, Yato now needs a new servant-weapon. (Yes, that ends it for the generic summary.)
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DameDesuYo :: Wait, finding a new Divine Instrument comes first!
Even if I’m a god, I’m basically defenseless without a Divine Instrument !
Or even butt-naked!
FFF :: Wait, I have to find a new Sacred Treasure first!
Even if I am a god, I’m essentially unarmed without a Sacred Treasure!
Completely naked!
HorribleSubs :: Wait, finding a new Sacred Treasure comes first!
Even if I am a god, without a Sacred Treasure I’m basically unarmed!
Or even butt-naked!
Sekinin :: Wait, finding a new Divine Instrument comes first!
Even if I’m a god, I’m defenseless without a Sacred Treasure!
I might as well fight with a stick!
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 5.
No “waifu” here? Not even from Sekinin? Come on guys, and you were trying so hard too.
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DameDesuYo :: Actually, you named your dog after Zenny’s leader, Ami. That’s lame!
>What do you mean, lame!? Shiina’s totally my lover!
I’m all about the Hundred Archfiends!
>How can you like Visual Kei?
FFF :: Wait, didn’t you name your dog after Zenny’s leader, Ami?
That’s so lame!
>What do you mean, “lame”?!
>Shiina’s the love of my life!
{\i1}I’m{\i0} all about The Hundred Archfiends!
>How can you like that flashy pop band?
HorribleSubs :: Actually, you named {\i1}your{\i0} dog after Zenny’s leader, Ami. That’s lame!
>What do you mean, lame?! Shiina’s totally my wife!
{\i1}I’m{\i0} all about the Hundred Archfiends!
>How can you like {\i1}visual kei{\i0}?
Sekinin :: Hey, Ami, didn’t you name your dog after Zenny’s leader? How lame.
>Lame in what way? Shiina is {\i1}so{\i0} my type!
Well, {\i1}I’m{\i0} all about the Hundred Archfiends!
>I don’t get how you can stand those {\i1}noises{\i0} they make.
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 6.
Yato introduces himself in wrestling girl’s hotel room.
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DameDesuYo :: Wh-Who are you!?
>I’m a god.
Hello, police!?
There’s a weird guy in a tracksuit who says he’s a god—
FFF :: Wh-Who are you?
>I’m a god.
Hello, police?
There’s a weird guy in sweats here, and he’s saying he’s a god—
HorribleSubs :: Wh-Who are you?!
>I’m a god.
Hello, police?!
There’s a weird guy in a jersey who says he’s a god–
Sekinin :: Wh-Who are you?!
>I am a god.
Hello, police?!
There’s a weird guy in a tracksuit who says he’s a god—
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 7.
More.
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DameDesuYo :: I’m the Yato god!
>Yato god?
>I’ve never heard of a god by that name.
>Not once!
Well, I’m sort of an up-and-coming stray god right now.
FFF :: I’m the Yato god!
>Yato god?
>I’ve never heard of you.
>Not once!
Well, right now I’m an up-and-coming stray god.
HorribleSubs :: I’m the Yato god!
>Yato god?
>I’ve never heard of that god.
>Not once!
Well, I’m sort of an up-and-coming stray god right now…
Sekinin :: I’m Yato the god!
>Yato the god?
>I’ve never heard of a god by that name.
>Not once!
Well, I’m sort of a god in the making as of now…
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 8.
Wrestling girl’s friends admonish her for jumping out into traffic. Tono’s a wrestler she idolizes.
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DameDesuYo :: Jump into the street again and I’ll hit you with a Jungle Savate!
>I bet she wouldn’t mind a shot from her dear, studly Tono-sama!
>>Oh, you!
FFF :: Jump into the street again and I’ll hit you with a Jungle Savate!
>I bet she’d actually love it if it was from her dear Touno!
>>Oh, come on!
HorribleSubs :: Jump into the street again and I’ll smack you with a Jungle Savate!
>I bet she wouldn’t mind a smack from her dear Tono!
>>Oh, you!
Sekinin :: Jump into the street again and I’ll hit you with a Jungle Savate!
>I’m sure she wouldn’t mind taking a bullet for her Tono-sama!
>>Oh, you!
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Essential 9.
Ue-sama/Milord is the cat’s name. The joke is that it’s a ridiculous name for a cat, so the episode is filled with oh-so-hilarious “Wherefore art thou, Milord?!” dialogue.
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DameDesuYo :: They’re cannon fodder, but there’s a ton of ’em!
Way too many to deal with!
You teased them, didn’t you!?
Ue-sama! You’ve taken your merriment too far!
FFF :: These things are weak, but there’s too many of them!
Too many for me to handle!
You teased them and made them angry, didn’t you?
Milord, you need to learn some self-control!
HorribleSubs :: They’re small fries, but there’s too many of ’em!
Too many to deal with!
You teased them, didn’t you?!
Milord! You’ve taken your merriment too far!
Sekinin :: They’re lesser beings, but there’s a ton of them!
Way too many to deal with!
You teased them, didn’t you?!
Milord, you’ve had enough fun for one day!
to go in raw dog like a poorly conceived white trash porno :: N/A. They all suck.
Decision Point:
- I can’t tell the difference between these subs. Maybe more comparisons will help. (They won’t, but feel free to click the spoiler and keep reading.)
- I don’t even know why I’m here. This show sucks. (Solid move. Head down to the results.)
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Which group had which line (unformatted, lazy-mode Sage):
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 1 time
FFF: 6 times
HorribleSubs: 4 times
Sekinin: 5 times
Looks like your best bet is FFF
Yeah, no clear-cut answer for this one, at least on my end.
Before starting, i’m surprised you didnt wait for the hatsuyuki original TL that is supposed to be coming
I didn’t even bother checking to see who was all doing it, honestly. Just trying to get through the parties as quick as possible, because reviews quickly stack up.
I’ll get to Hatsuyuki’s Noragami (and HorribleSubs’s Witch Craft Works) come normal review time.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 5 times
FFF: 1 time
HorribleSubs: 0 times
Sekinin: 1 time
Looks like your best bet is DameDesuYo
I’m not biased. I swear. (¬‿¬)
Also, worth pointing out our v2 release included two tracks with milord/ue-sama, phantom/ayakashi so if thats the make or break for anyone… ┐(‘～`；)┌
What if I want Milord + Ayakashi?
Then go with Hatsuyuki.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 0 times
FFF: 4 times
HorribleSubs: 0 times
Sekinin: 4 times
It’s a tie between FFF and Sekinin
My god… I never get a clear answer. On another note, I’ve never heard of this Sekinin group before.
They did a few things last season that they promptly dropped. Seem legit enough, though.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 4 times
FFF: 3 times
HorribleSubs: 3 times
Sekinin: 6 times
But its all moot anyway, because none of them translated his pre-battle speech (there’s probably a word for that sort of thing, but I forget what it is) in a cool way.
So instant fail.
no one translated anything. they are all funimation edits. so they all worked from the same base.
I didn’t actually watch it — but three different groups all ignored some dialogue because it wasn’t already translated? wtf
Well, I guess I should have used the word localized, since I was really just referring to the final product.
But yes, I’m aware that they all used FUNimation as a base. I’m still gonna attribute the suck to all of them though.
DameDesuYo: 2 times
FFF: 5 times
HorribleSubs: 1 time
Sekinin: 3 times
Looks like your best bet is FFF
Not that I was going to watch it anyway, but good to know.
“Sacred Treasure”. Everyone has watched too much of “The Law of Ueki”.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 0 times
FFF: 4 times
HorribleSubs: 0 times
Sekinin: 2 times
Looks like your best bet is FFF
But I’m watching this with an original TL to russian instead. Hooray for Jap-Russian translators.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 1 time
FFF: 3 times
HorribleSubs: 1 time
Sekinin: 4 times
Looks like your best bet is Sekinin
Well, Sekinin’s lines weren’t that bad. At least their script isn’t a complete CR rip-off.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 5 times
FFF: 0 times
HorribleSubs: 5 times
Sekinin: 1 time
It’s a tie between DameDesuYo and HorribleSubs
DameDesuYo I guess for more Japaneseness…
DameDesuYo: 5 times
FFF: 2 times
HorribleSubs: 3 times
Sekinin: 2 times
Looks like your best bet is DameDesuYo
I guess I’ll give them a try.
This is really great! Any chance of adding Hatsuyuki’s version?
Adding Hatsuyuki’s version wouldn’t be hard, but their subs wouldn’t be properly represented in the poll. Additionally, I tend to avoid adding groups to TL Parties because it’s not really fair to the groups who are already represented when the post goes up. This is because groups can just look at which lines are being compared and make sure those specific lines in their subs look better than the other groups’ lines. Then they can point to the post as “objective” proof of how better they are.
I saw this happen with ji-hi’s comparisons. Groups (Hadena, for example) used to wait till the comparisons came out and then made sure their subs looked better in the comparison than their “competitors'”. I’m not about to let that bullshit happen here. So as a general rule, I avoid adding anything to the TL Parties after they’re posted.
Hatsuyuki will get a fair shake come the regular fansub reviews.
I’m surprised someone actually did that… o.0
Fansubbing is (or used to be) rather cutthroat. Do what you gotta do to feed that ego. anidb/myanimelist vote rigging is easy as fuck, for example. It doesn’t take much to clear your cookies and register a new account. If you trust those anonymous reviews, you’re a goddamn moron. You think fansubbers don’t vote on that shit?
Any comparison that allows for additions after it’s posted is subjected to dishonesty. Let’s say you’re in a group and see a comparison on 10 lines posted on a popular site. And let’s say your group hasn’t released their episode yet. Are you going to just pretend you never saw those comparisons, or are you going to make sure for those specific lines you look better than other, “lesser” groups? I know which option I’m betting most groups would take.
People actually did that? LOL. Funny shit.
Yup. With Hadena, it was rather obvious. For typesetting, they’d put all their effort into the one or two screens featured and stop giving a fuck for everything else.
It was pretty entertaining when I’d review those releases.
Oh, those days…
What releases were those? I’m kinda curious about your reviews on those.
You may as well just go back and read everything tagged Hadena, I used to do that when I needed a laugh. I think they managed…maybe two whole shows above a D.
Good times.
http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/kagayaki-hadena_Sacred_Seven_01v2720p26193A01.mkv_snapshot_05.16_2011.07.10_02.50.08.jpg
Could you add HorribeSubs to Witch Craft Works? It’s not like Crunchyroll will put more effort on parts from your TLparty anyway.
Eh… sounds like effort. Episode 2’s already been released, so just look for fansub reviews on that front. FFF will probably ditch their shitty TL and edit from HorribleSubs anyway.
Just need to compare them myself then. And I don’t think FFF will switch to CrunchyTL (did they ever do that?) – Crunchy is 3 days late and FFF posted about releasing second episode in a few hours (it was eight hours ago, though).
FFF tends to only do CR edits if they’re actual simulcasts. If the simulcast is a day or more later, they almost always do original TLs.
All the groups working on Witch Craft Works should read the eng. TL of the manga and create their subs based on it. I think that’s what CR might be doing, after watching CR/HS episode 01.
I highly doubt that.
Sekinin: -1
Other groups: 0
(every time i don’t see significant difference i don’t vote, and if i vote for 3 of 4 it means i didn’t like one of the translations, therefore -1 is possible :> )
well, i think i’ll stick with first available for this show
FFF was it for me, but…
>cannon fodder
I think I should go with DameDesuYo.
Actually, that is DDY’s line:
>DameDesuYo :: They’re cannon fodder, but there’s a ton of ‘em!
[…]>Ue-sama! You’ve taken your merriment too far!
Sekinin actually made Essential 8 funny
[…]>Milord, you’ve had enough fun for one day!
but otherwise all 3 killed at least one HS joke.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 4 times
FFF: 2 times
HorribleSubs: 6 times
Sekinin: 7 times
Looks like your best bet is Sekinin
Sekinen has potential, but some of their edits were a big improvement, while others sounded terrible. Also, they need to choose (see Essential 8) one TL for Jinki (神器?): either “Divine Instrument” or “Sacred Treasure.” I prefer the former for its being more descriptive of the role.
P.S. I just realized you may have known it was DDY, but still liked the line. While “cannon fodder” is a cool idiom, it doesn’t fit the scene.
Overall scores…
DameDesuYo: 3 times
FFF: 4 times
HorribleSubs: 2 times
Sekinin: 0 times
Looks like your best bet is FFF
Well, I’m using DameDesuYo’s translations for translating Noragami from English to Turkish and it seems my best bet is FFF… Well, this is a contradiction :D