Fakesub Review: [Commie] Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta – The Pilot’s Love Song (Episode 07)

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I should learn to check Commie scripts for actual editing before going straight into the review. Would save me a lot of wasted time.

Karaoke.

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Terrible karaoke, as per the Commie standard.

 

Font.

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If you’re going to choose a font for the main dialogue, it’s generally best to choose something that isn’t going to cause viewers to taste their own bile.

 

Script.

Issues present in the original Crunchyroll script remain unchanged. These include a lack of understanding how2/punctuation/, unclear dialogue, incorrect tense use, and general Engrish.

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. -> :
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A line so clear it could have only been developed in a mud bath.
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would -> will
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seconds -> seconds’ worth of
 

Of course, they also were happy to add errors in.

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That’s not how you pluralize aircraft. It was a good guess, though!

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The term in the idiomatic sense is mincemeat. But hey, way to show confidence in your English by not bothering to check your very few edits. Fake it till you make it, right?

 

“What’s Pride? Is that something you can eat?”

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If so, Commie must be starving.

 

 

Results

Disqualified.

To the surprise of no one, Commie just slapped their name on a Crunchyroll script and called it their own. There’s no reason to wait for this over the HorribleSubs/Crunchyroll version, unless you really hate readable fonts.

And if you’re wondering why Commie still bothers releasing when they clearly don’t give a shit about the scene or anime in general, it’s because the traffic they get from it can be pretty profitable:

Hey it beats having a job right RHE

As of today, they have 48 people signed up, each of whom are paying fees for the honor of being considered Commie supporters.

Fansubbing always was serious business, but for some groups now it’s mostly just a business.

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412 thoughts on “Fakesub Review: [Commie] Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta – The Pilot’s Love Song (Episode 07)”

  2. There’s… there’s no way that’s the font they chose for the ED’s karaoke. I can’t believe anyone would choose that.

    Why? Why ever?

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  3. Glad I didn’t waste my time watching their version. When my choices are only Commie or HS/CR, I just get HS.

    Still want to see Log Horizon and Monogatari typeset but refuse to download those from commie either.

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    • I could believe that. THORA’s Bounen no Xamdou OP has a similar font and it’s so bad in comparison to the fonts they use for the other opening and endings it made me think they forgot to mux the font there too.

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  6. >Fansubbing always was serious business, but for some groups now it’s mostly just a business.

    Now I get why Daiz wants to popularize fansubbed anime.

    Also explains the obnoxious persistence of the commie IDF.

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  8. Commie releases to provide for those who want 10bit and Karaoke effects. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Why the false accusations about subbing just for donations? This isn’t a review, this is a just an excuse to talk shit about Commie. That’s pretty messed up. The last part that you typed was completely unnecessary.

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  9. http://milk.tea.jp/i/nzfLDH.png

    The pool has earned a total of ~23.5 monacoins since it was brought up out of a total of 6250 monacoins generated. At the current exchange rate (using monatr.jp and bitcoin exchanges), these numbers would equate to about about 103 yen and 27375 yen respectively. The pool fee itself brought ~6.4 monacoins, or ~28 yen (the other 17.1 were donations that users explicitly specified in their account settings).

    Since someone is unable to read – starting from 21 Feb there were no fees until 12am on 3 Mar. Even then, the two users driving half of the pool hashrate are no-fee users (they are contributing 2.5MH/s at time of writing, while the pool hashrate is 4.4MH/s), so currently, the 1% pool fee is hardly worth mentioning.

    Let’s do a bit of math here. Over the past 24 hours, the pool has found 15 blocks – with the monacoin block reward of 50, the last 24 hours brought the pool 750 monacoins. Ignoring other no-fee users apart from the two mentioned above, we’ll say that 44% of the total hashrate has a 1% tax from the pool fee – that is, 330 monacoins are affected by the pool fee. The pool fee would have brought in 3.3 monacoins over the last day had it been in effect the entire time (it still hasn’t been 24 hours since the fee was reimplemented). At the current exchange rate, 3.3 monacoins brings in about 14-15 yen, which is about 15 American cents. 15c/day for a month brings about 4-5 dollars.

    Take that how you will.

    Here are some other corrected facts and other statistics for readers, as well:

    ~# mysql mona_mpospool -e ‘select count(*) from accounts;’
    +———-+
    | count(*) |
    +———-+
    | 209 |
    +———-+
    (there are a total of 209 users signed up)
    ~# mysql mona_mpospool -e ‘select username from shares;’ | tail -n+2 | cut -d. -f1 | sort | uniq -c | wc -l
    19
    (in the current round, a total of 19 users are mining in this pool)
    root@debian:~# mysql mona_mpospool -e “select count(*) from accounts where last_login > $(date –date=’yesterday’ +%s)”
    +———-+
    | count(*) |
    +———-+
    | 17 |
    +———-+
    (a total of 17 users last logged into the pool website in the past 24 hours)

    The pool isn’t meant to be for profit, it’s meant to publicize the monacoin cryptocurrency to western audiences.

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    • By the way, the fact that I’m contributing to the localization of the official monacoin exchange, participating in and inviting people to 2ch’s monacoin sponsored mahjong tournaments (despite me being a terrible player) and keeping up with things the monacoin community produces doesn’t really seem to mesh with your agenda of pushing the pool as an attempt by “Commie Enterprises ™” (and me) to earn a profit.

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    • for the record, SQL statements don’t prove a point. The data that they bring back does, so their inclusion seems a bit unnecessary.

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      • I could be talking shit out of my ass by stating such and such by not showing how I gathered such and such data (not like I couldn’t be now, but at least showing the queries will let other pool administrators confirm what the queries mean if they were so inclined).

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    • Oh, please forgive me. You’re right; charging people a fee for the honor of… uhh… existing in your e-presence is pure charity. What a selfless person you are!

      What about your Bitcoin and Litecoin donations? And all the money you’ve pulled from Paypal? Come on lae, while you’re being honest, why not give us all those numbers? Such generosity on your part should surely be lauded.

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        • Oh right. I forgot how the Commie pyramid works. The main take is for the master.

          So tell me mudsill-kun, why are you charging your dear downloaders anything if money apparently has no reason to enter the equation? Please, defend yourself. I do so love being entertained.

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          • Specifying that something is not for profit does not require money to not show up in the equation at all.

            Please visit the pools listed at http://keystore00.github.io/pools and come back to me if you still haven’t figured out why pools charge a fee (that is mostly insignificant on an individual basis) to their miners.

            Or do you somehow believe I can obtain servers for free?

            Also, what downloaders? I doubt anyone who’s downloaded anything uploaded by me is mining in this pool, and if they cared about fees, they’d solo mine.

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            • Their fees are paying for a server that you can’t afford to maintain on your own that’s doing… magic? Your site explains nothing.

              And when I said downloaders, I was referring to the audience you were attempting to rope into your little scheme by stickying a post on a site that purports to be a fansub group’s site. You may know them as leechers. Most people know Commie fans as gutter trash, but I think we’re getting a bit too deep into semantics now.

              Seriously, if you think anyone’s gonna buy you’re not doing this for profit, you’re as stupid as you think your gutter trash are.

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              • >Their fees are paying for a server that you can’t afford to maintain on your own that’s doing… magic? Your site explains nothing.

                Maybe you should actually look into what mining pools are and how they work before you write dramatic posts condemning them.

                Did you think the people participating in the pool were being charged real money or something?

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                  • Maybe you should actually look into what mining pools are and how they work before you write dramatic posts condemning them.

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                    • I shouldn’t have expected a phone bank operator to know what wage skimming is. Maybe there’s a reason you’re poor.

                    • You’re so ignorant it baffles me.

                      I’ve never worked in any job remotely involving phones, I’m hardly poor, and your constant comparisons to salary simply reinforce that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

                      Please, read up on mining pools and let’s continue the conversation when (if?) you’re informed. This is just embarrassing to read.

                    • Aww, so you were lying to me back when we were true pals? Geez Xythar, you were scratching the writing into the wall from the beginning, weren’t ya buddy?

                      But hold on, I can play your game: “Hey Xythar, read up on mining pools. You’re wrong as long as I repeat that sentence. Fuck yeah, internet arguing.”

                      Oh shit, what’re ya gonna do now that I figured out your clever strat, Xythar? You might actually have to formulate a real thought now!

                    • I never said anything to you about working in a cell center, or a phone bank, or whatever the hell you got into your head. I’m a programmer, and I’ve never told anyone otherwise. Not my problem if your memory is shot.

                      Yes, I would like you to actually know what mining pools are before you scream and rant about how bad this one is. Seems reasonable to me.

              • I can afford to maintain it myself, but what regulating authority says I have to? The fact still remains that it’s not profitable.

                That site does not belong to me, it belongs to a developer from 2ch.

                And sure, I’m definitely scamming people despite being upfront about fees in the first sentence after a link. The people who mine know what they’re getting into – the people who don’t sound like this: http://waa.ai/bQI http://waa.ai/bQ8

                Also, >implying sites have to be limited to one topic and one topic only
                Haven’t you seen the reviews or VN sections yet?

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                  • of course if someone from the west did this, it would kill the monacoin economy in nipland because the current net hashrate isn’t even at half a GH/s

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                • Didn’t you guys stop the reviews after you realized you couldn’t copy my swagger? Seriously, let me know when you can come up with an original thought (“crytpocurrency is so hot” doesn’t count) and I’ll spend more time on your site than simply validating it exists when I have to for my reviews.

                  “They know they’re being fucked and they like it, so don’t bug me man. Let me rip the trash off.” Sorry, lae-chan. Just because you’re ripping off low-tiers doesn’t exempt you from being called out on it.

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                    • Are you that thick? You’re charging people for nothing under the guise of doing them a favor. What else would you call it?

                    • Because they’re paying for nothing. What did you think the 1% got them? Seriously, fuck you for trying to scam anime fans. (And make sure to read up on mining pools!)

                    • They’re paying for nothing because they’re paying for nothing? Can you explain that in a less circular way?

                    • Jesus Christ, at this point I can’t tell whether you have less pride or IQ.

                      If paying some random jackoff (who’s totes trustable because hey he’s an anime fan and look at all these animes he made with the commies) 1% of anything you mine offers you nothing, then maybe you can guess what it offers you.

                      One of these days you’ll be able to connect that dot, Xythar. Keep at it!

                    • yeah, we all know cryptocurrency is real money and isn’t susceptible to becoming worth nothing when banks shut down all paths of cross-fiat transfer

                    • I just want to see him express some kind of logical path of reasoning from start to finish.

                      Of course, to do that he’d actually have to know what he was talking about.

                    • D_S: That’s not at all how it works. This is why I’ve been telling you to read up on mining pools before you make am even bigger fool of yourself – you are operating under a fundamental misconception regarding what they’re for and how they work. Are you actually going to inform yourself now or do I need to spoonfeed you?

                      >Jesus Christ, at this point I can’t tell whether you have less pride or IQ.

                      Funnily enough, this is exactly how I feel every time I read your comments on this post.

                    • Hint: You might want to start by finding out why people use mining pools to begin with. Then you might find out what they get out of it that’s worth the fee.

                    • Xythar, you have people asking you more questions about Symphogear, maybe you should answer them instead.

                    • Hunta: Posted, though I can’t add much.

                      And yeah, I’ve stayed out of the whole cryptocurrency thing myself. My electricity bill is high enough already.

                    • Who says Xythar has anything to do with this?

                      You should probably read my post at 1:17am EST as well.

  13. >See Xythar posts Recent comments
    >Yay more hilarious posting to read
    >Stumble into /r/altcoin
    >WE MUST SHOW HOW MUCH WE DON’T CARE POST POST INTERNET ARGUMENTS
    Just as expected. Never change commie, never change.

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  15. Man, I love how they went straight to the money issue instead the review itself. They don´t even try anymore, it’s like they gave up in the whole fansub thing.

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  19. LMFAO Dork Sage whose english is fucked up now?

    Minced meat may refer to:
    Ground meat, meat that has been minced or ground.

    MincED meat may be CONFUSED with:
    MINCEMEAT, a mixture of dried fruit and spices, commonly does NOT contain any meat.

    Read more books and stop watching anime pleb.

    So basically that line was correct because minced meat is meat that is cut up. Which is what would most likely happen to your body if you got into plane crash. The human body is not made up of dried fruit and spices, it is made up of flesh/meat or whatever you want to call it.

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        • Just because minced meat is the more correct of the two by the meaning of the word doesn’t make it the one that’s actually used idiomatically. When you it as a phrase, mincemeat is typically the one used.

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          • There’s no reason to believe they were trying to invoke the idiom when the phrasing and meaning of the line are both completely different. One look at the HS line should tell you that it’s a simple “they’ll wind up dead” (ie, shot to tiny pieces) line, hence the conversion of “fish food” to “minced meat”.

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            • I don’t get it. Either they’re invoking the idiom incorrectly, or they changed the sentence to sound even less like something a native speaker would say. No matter how you want to mansplain it, the edited sentence is worse than the original.

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                • And what flipr is saying is that English speakers wouldn’t use it as a noun in that context, so if they’re using it as a noun and not an idiom, it’s less natural.

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                  • How is it less natural? If you get into a plane crash of that caliber you will be turning into minced meat literally, end of story. The situation they’re in fits that line.

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                    • Because no one would say it like that. Again, just because it’s more correct in meaning doesn’t mean it’s right word for the job. You can say you weren’t trying to invoke the idiom all you want, and that’s perfectly valid, but in this case not invoking the idiom is the wrong choice because one would naturally expect the idiom in this case. Using the correct word instead of the idiom is a rare occurrence and thus feels less natural.

                • Cool. So they changed “fish food” which is something a native speaker would say to “minced meat” which is something unusual, slightly awkward due to the extra syllable, and confusingly similar to an idiom that doesn’t quite fit the situation.
                  I fail to see how that’s an improvement.

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                  • I think it is an improvement, fish food sounds very childish. Minced meat is more brutal. It paints the image of a bloody death in the reader’s head.

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                    • tl;dr flipr talks out of his ass

                      Glossing over how both “fish food” and “mincemeat” would be common phrases and that in the heat of the moment a real person wouldn’t come up with something new like “minced meat,” a native speaker will stress “fish” in “fish food,” “mince” in “mincemeat,” but “meat” in “minced meat.”

                      You may be wondering why this matters. In English, ending a statement or sentence with a stressed syllable adds force to the ending and makes it more declarative. Questions, even when rhetorical, more frequently end in an unstressed syllable to indicate that the conversation isn’t yet done.

                      Challenge: ask me a question that ends in a stressed syllable. If you do, you’ll find out the answer to the question “is there really a true Scottsman?”

                  • Depends on what the line is referring to. I don’t have the original Japanese here (and from what I recall, it was a line in the preview that had barely any context anyway) but fish food only makes sense if the danger was sinking into a body of water (which is presumably filled with piranhas or something). Shooting someone to bits would turn them into minced meat.

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            • So you’re saying that Kyhz didn’t even understand he was fucking around with an idiom? I’d believe that. So why don’t you tell me how that makes the line good?

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              • I don’t really care about your opinion of the line. I’m just amused by how you fucked up, got called on it, and then furiously tried to backpedal your way to the idiom angle.

                Pride comes before the fall, etc.

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                • What alternate universe are you living in? The line sucks and Crymore ain’t going anywhere.

                  Shit, I’d say you lost it but I don’t think you ever had it to begin with.

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              • Nope, I’m saying the only idiom present is the one in your head. It makes the line good because when cooked and seasoned properly minced meat is pretty tasty, and fish food taste like shit. When I was 4 I sprinkled some of my goldfish’s food on my spaghetti by mistake (thought it was parmesan cheese cheese) then threw up. I don’t have time for this shit I’m going to go play Far Cry 3.

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      • Nope you’re wrong that line meant getting turned into actual minced meat, a NOUN. The plane crash would cause his body (which contains meat/flesh) to be cut into shreds, hence the minced meat. Get it now Dark Sage-kun?

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        • No native Englander or otherwise would ever say that. I’m amazed how many people are arguing for it when it just wouldn’t be said – and for technicality’s sake, a body would be ripped, not minced. Minced invokes precisions, like you would get with blades, and isn’t a word that means chunks of meat, like you’re suggesting.

          Dark_Sage isn’t always right, but in this case, he was bang on the monocoin ;)

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            • They may not, but they make it through on the fact they are idioms. This isn’t an idiom and it doesn’t make sense either, so yeah, it doesn’t work at all.

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              • Seeing that providing a clear and accurate translation is a major aspect of fansubbing (in my opinion) , I too would certainly prefer an idiom over a word that does not feels wrong to me, even though it may technically be more sound. Because most people, myself included, are likely to say mincemeat. Thought I’d share my opinion, though I’m not quite a fansubber.

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                • Oops,a typo in my comment renders it nonsensical. I meant – I’d prefer an idiom over a word that feels wrong, though that word may be technically more sound. *

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  21. Seiji-kun –

    You seem to be under some misconceptions about how buttcoins (the proper general term) are mined. To greatly simplify things, you are rewarded coins for brute forcing the right answer to a math problem. However, the method you use to brute force the math problem turns up a lot of incorrect answers that don’t get rewarded. There’s some amount of randomness to whether you find the right solution on any given attempt.

    I don’t know your background, so apologies if I’m explaining something you know, but the idea is that when you pool random variables, the total variability decreases. For instance, imagine flipping a coin. It wouldn’t be strange to get tails twice in a row. In this case, you got tails 100% of the time. However, if you flipped it 1000 times, you’d expect to be much closer to 50%. Now imagine that the coin weighs 500 lbs, and you only get paid if it lands on heads. It’d be much more effort to flip the coin, and you’d have the risk of not getting paid for the few times you’re able to flip it. However, if 1000 of your buddies decided you’d all flip the coin once and would split the profits, you’d greatly reduce the risk of not getting paid for your effort. This similar to the reason people will pay a fee to invest in a mutual fund.

    Thus, the benefit of pooling a mining operation is twofold.
    1. You are paid coins more frequently (although each payment is smaller). This is common sense — more people trying to solve the problem, the faster it gets solved.
    2. The variability in the number of hashes calculated before payout is reduced. This is a reduction in risk.

    People pay pool fees because the steadier income and the reduced risk are of value to them.

    tl;dr
    Flipr wants to prove that he took a stats class once.

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    • Though to be clear, that says nothing about whether the pool operator is doing it for profit. It’s just shows that he’s not taking their money in return for nothing.

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      • Seiji-kun just has an issue with any form of revenue if he can’t see the connection to fansubbing.

        Just like he thinks video game reviews shouldn’t belong on the site, either.

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        • My problem is profiting off fansubs.

          I actually thought your video game kick was a good idea. It’s just no one in your group has a personality, so you were doomed to fail from the beginning.

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            • I just browsed a few reviews. Worse writing than anime blogs. But hey if you can beg your way into free games I guess that does count as a success. Way to go. I bet you get hundred of hits per review.

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              • Somehow I doubt the reviews were written with getting hits in mind. Ego is one thing, but free games actually save you money.

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            • I think you can answer that one yourself. Hint: it has to do with the site on which you guys are begging for sign-ups.

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              • Begging? Where do you see begging? It’s an entirely optional service intended for people interested in cryptocurrencies. Its existence does not affect what we do. Except for the name (for the most part) and the person who operates it (who used the blog merely as a mean of exposure), it has no relation to the group.

                Unless you just have a problem with advertising in general…

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                • I have a problem with profiting financially off fansubs. For example, by promoting your own service with a stickied post for three weeks on a site that purports to be a fansub group’s.

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                    • The profit comes from people interested in using the pooled mining service, not people looking for fansubs.

                    • Oh you’re right. See, I thought people visiting the site were looking for fansubs. But you’re right, it’s just a bunch of pool buddies. Way to put me in my place, guy.

                    • From what I’ve gathered, we’re getting a bit ahead of ourselves by referring to the “profit” as if it existed in the first place.

                    • Also, you still seem to be under the impression that other members are involved in the service (“you stickied it”). lae stickied the post. I don’t think the rest of us even give half a shit combined.

                    • I find it difficult to differentiate between you guys. None of you have a distinctive enough existence to warrant individual consideration in matters like this one. Sorry, dupletharlae or whatever your name is.

                    • Most people who visit this site are looking for fansub reviews, but that doesn’t stop you from posting irrelevant bullshit every other day.

                    • I’m literally just fucking petty enough to care about getting in the last word after a fucking 150-word spazzfest.

                    • You’ve got no one to blame but yourself there. Hell, if you could manage to hold yourself back from posting your dumb, ignorant rants in the first place, I wouldn’t feel so compelled to point out how wrong you are.

                      The whole issue is bullshit to begin with because nobody profits from fansubbing in any significant fashion. Automated rips and re-encodes are where the money is, though who knows if they even make enough to live on.

                      In short, I have a hard time believing you keep bringing the issue up for any other reason than controversy bait.

                    • >Automated rips and re-encodes are where the money is

                      So Commie’s doing pretty well, I take it.

                    • >See, I thought people visiting the site were looking for fansubs. But you’re right, it’s just a bunch of pool buddies.
                      Huh?

                      But people are visiting the site for fansubs, which is why it’s a good place to promote a pooled mining service for a Japan-oriented cryptocurrency. Is there something wrong with that?

                    • My problem is with profiting off of fansubs. It’s as simple as that. If you’re targeting anime fans for profit on your fansub site, I’m gonna take issue with it.

                      And I’ve been bitching about this on Crymore since 2010, so don’t even bother playing the “aww we at Commie are so persecuted” bit.

                    • >If you’re targeting anime fans for profit on your fansub site, I’m gonna take issue with it.
                      Why? What’s the problem with it?

                    • Fansubbing in a by-the-fans-for-the-fans sense should not have a profit motive behind it. That’s just what I believe in. Not like there’s an internet law against it.

                      But if you think people should make money off subbing anime, perhaps you could try Crunchyroll.

                    • Whatever would all those anime fans* do without you to defend them?

                      *unless they’re Muslims or have Arabic-sounding names

                    • “For those not in the know, it’s basically your 2ch/buyfaggotry/weebcoin.”
                      “There is also an auction site where you can get amazon.co.jp giftcards…in practice, going at about 15 mona:100 yen, and as low as 10mona:100yen – which comparatively is worth more than USD/yen”
                      yeah.

                    • >Fansubbing in a by-the-fans-for-the-fans sense should not have a profit motive behind it. That’s just what I believe in.
                      I can respect that, but I don’t see what it has to do with anything. It’s not Commie’s motive to make a profit.

                    • I get the feeling that you guys are forgetting that profit doesn’t mean that you necessarily mean you have to “gain” from it. Profit refers to both gain and loss. Just wanted to point that out; I don’t want any part in this argument because I don’t even understand how cyptocurrency work.

  26. It’s a good thing my job involves a lot of automation, otherwise I wouldn’t even have time to respond here. I’m still on shift for another two hours, even.

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  27. Maybe if Commie, the fansub group, spent less time trying to profit from cryptocurrencies and scoring free games from shitty games reviews, they’d have more time to spend on actually editing the scripts they rip from CR.

    I think it’s fair to question Commie’s reason for fansubbing when they’re subbing as many shows as they are, yet put so little effort into them.

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  28. >Fansubbing in a by-the-fans-for-the-fans sense should not have a profit motive behind it. That’s just what I believe in. Not like there’s an internet law against it.

    … Well, technically, there are copyright laws in place against using the original works for profit without permission from the copyright holders. Sometimes, even without the profit aspect, companies get upset at people distributing their work for free and get Cease & Desist orders…

    Even if you’re only distributing the translated script, you’re on shaky ground. Especially if the anime’s dub is already licensed by an American country. You should know how much Americans love taking people to court over silly things like that.

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  32. Is this what they call a love-hate relationship? I actually can’t tell anymore whether people are pissed or already having fun fighting.

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  33. It’s funny that lae and Xythar seems so mad at Dark_Sage when obviously he doesn’t know how buttcoins works.

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    • It’s more that—because of his ignorance, unusual cognitive processes, and raging hate-boner for Commie—he’s trying to spread the idea that we’re trying rip people off, which is pretty harmful.

      On the other hand, no one that matters thinks anything he says has any merit anymore, so it is a bit dumb to get the least bit emotional over it.

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      • Because you are. You’re taking money from people with a “hey we’re giving you free anime so why not reciprocate with your wallet?” pitch.

        I’d have a problem with that if you were actually fansubbers, but you guys release what are essentially straight rips and act like you’ve actually done anything worthwhile, which makes it worse. You are a cancer.

        As for your last little comment, who are these “people that matter” who hate me? Give me a list. I’d love to keep track of who’s the most butthurt.

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        • >> Because you are. You’re taking money from people with a “hey we’re giving you free anime so why not reciprocate with your wallet?” pitch.

          People have tried to explain to you multiple times that this is not how mining pools work, and you’ve elected to ignore them because it doesn’t fit your world view.

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          • Hey fnord, I thought you were boycotting me. Welcome back.

            Why don’t you explain to me why a pool fee is a 100% unprofitable requirement to mine. I’d love to hear your explanation.

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            • Uh, if the costs of maintaining the pool exceed the fees charged, the pool is not profitable.

              This seems fairly basic to me.

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              • And I’m sure when the revenue exceeds the costs (of a dedicated server, I’m sure), lae will drop the fees accordingly. Right? That surely ain’t gonna be pocketed cuz that’d make you wrong and me right, and you certainly can’t let that happen again or you may be embarrassed into another self-imposed exile.

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                • Your usage of “when” is dazzlingly optimistic, but one would assume so, since that’s what “not for profit” means.

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                • >And I’m sure when the revenue exceeds the costs (of a dedicated server, I’m sure), lae will drop the fees accordingly. Right?
                  Not necessarily. He can use the surplus revenue (which, by the way, doesn’t actually come from anyone) to further improve the service. This is how NPOs work.

                  Thinking he’s going to pocket the excess is pure conspiracy theory.

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                  • Oh this is an NPO now? Yeah, I guess any excess could go toward his wages. That seems totally legit.

                    My bad, everyone. Commie’s actually doing the world a favor here.

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                • Unlikely. If the pool ever generated enough traffic for the “fees” to accumulate to the costs of the server, I would likely need to move to AWS or add in several servers and one or two load balancers to the mix. Instead of doing that, I’d probably end up having to put up an announcement requesting miners to move to the non-English supported 2ch pool, shut down the pool and manually send payouts to everyone.

                  And if you’re wondering exactly how much that would cost – a really simple multi-AZ production setup on AWS using 2 c3.xlarge EC2 instances, 1 multi-AZ db.m2.xlarge RDS instance and one elastic load balancer would end up costing about 1300USD a month.

                  No fucking way is a 1% pool fee going to cover that, dude, and unless I’m backed by an investor I’m definitely not going to spend that much out of my pocket to keep the pool up and functional. I brought up the pool as an experiment at being a pool admin for a coin I’m interested in and so far it’s going well. 1 is the default configuration fee in global.inc.php, and since I’m running git HEAD I’d rather leave it unmodified than commit a change, if only to reduce the chance of a configuration conflict in the future.

                  Of course, I wouldn’t expect someone who believes in bullshit a level 1 helpdesk tech has to spout on how “MyISAM is safer and better than InnoDB” to understand.

                  Unless you somehow can see into the future and think Monacoin is going to be the next Bitcoin, your interpretation of profit is awfully skewed. At the current rate, monacoin generation is nowhere near the circumstances necessary for them to become “scarce” and thus increase in valuation.

                  Please, do go on. I would love to have your foresight, Daaku_Seiji-sempai.

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                  • >I brought up the pool as an experiment at being a pool admin…
                    Nuh-uh, bro. You’re obviously just trying to rip off poor leechers!

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                  • You used a lot of numbers, but I don’t see anything that shows running this pool as unprofitable in the post. I’ll take your words at face value but what are your current costs and what kind of income can you see per person assuming they have normal computers and usage (i.e. not botnets), over a given period of time?

                    Those kind of figures would be needed to convince someone who doesn’t know the ins and outs of coin mining. You can start with: How much does a monacoin miner make in a day?

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                    • I’m trying to ask more “how much did this string cost to make per meter and how much do you expect to sell it for?” but you are free to misinterpret however you like, I guess.

                    • For the servers I currently run, I’m spending about ~200USD a month. The pool is definitely not the primary target of traffic on my servers, though; what I’m trying to say is that if it did, it’d cause more problems than I’d be willing to take on, despite it being the closest thing to generating any sort of revenue for me. Everything else I run – Commiepad, Showtimes/Wagnaria, analytics, and several other services I do not want to mention because they are unrelated to Commie – do not. Time and time again I do advertise things (like Santa Company) but that doesn’t generate any revenue.

                      I currently run a desktop with a GTX 670 that pushes on average 322KH/s for scrypt coins (the type of coin the monacoin altcoin is). When I first started mining MONA when the network difficulty was around ~5, it took about 3 days to generate 250 MONA, so let’s say about 85 MONA per day. Using monatr.jp’s and BitPay’s current exchange rate for exchanging MONA->BTC->JPY, 1 MONA is equivalent to about 4.31JPY. That’s about 366JPY per day, or about 3.5USD.

                      People with ATI cards will have better luck, though, since ATI cards have higher hashrates for scrypt coins. Someone on the Commie blog commented that they made 150 MONA in one day at 1MH/s (and this is more recent than my example above, with a higher difficulty closer to what the current difficulty is), which returns about 646JPY, or ~6USD.

                      Of course, you have to bring electricity costs into the equation – though where I live, electricity for the wattage my card incurs is less than 20USD/mo, so net gain isn’t negative. It’s tougher for people who can mine with only a CPU or a weaker GPU, though.

                      Keeping in mind that the cryptocurrency market is volatile as fuck, these numbers are practically only accurate for today. The MONA->BTC->JPY rate not too long ago was at 1 MONA:7 JPY.

                    • Under the assumption this doesn’t end up profit-generating for you in any fashion, then great. I’d be happy to be wrong about the kind of person you are. If not, then I’ll be glad I didn’t stay silent about this.

                      Ultimately, I have no trust in your stated motives. And with all the shit Commie’s pulled in the past (including Xythar’s admittance that you’re just posting game reviews to get games for free), I think you can at least understand my reluctance to trust in you.

                    • >And with all the shit Commie’s pulled in the past (including Xythar’s admittance that you’re just posting game reviews to get games for free), I think you can at least understand my reluctance to trust in you.

                      I don’t recall anyone ever claiming otherwise, besides you.

            • I wasn’t boycotting you. I was busy and still am busy playing Kantai Collection. At times the brainless posts you produce can be amusing, but reading them and/or replying to them consumes time which is often better spent more productively (counting ants on the pavement, sleeping, rearranging things in my fridge, etc).

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        • >You’re taking money from people with a “hey we’re giving you free anime so why not reciprocate with your wallet?” pitch.

          That’s not how paying for a service works.

          I wouldn’t say “hate”, but there aren’t many fansubbers who take this site seriously anymore, and the vast majority of leechers either don’t know or don’t care. Probably doesn’t help that you review like three shows a season, sometimes as late as two months in when most people have already decided anyway.

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          • How about a list? You can provide more than just “I don’t like you so I’m sure everyone else hates you too”, right?

            Cuz I’m looking at site stats and we’re doing better than ever.

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            • Why don’t you provide a list of fansubbers who still post here regularly and would care if you criticised them in a review?

              I’ll start you off:

              Solaristics

              …

              Okay, that’s all I got.

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              • Dat burden of proof shifting. I love it.

                (By the way, even if every fansubber boycotted this site, I wouldn’t shut it down or even change a damn thing. What on earth makes you think that’s what Crymore relies on to be successful?)

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                • I don’t know, what do you rely on to be successful? Self-satisfaction? It’s clearly not content generation or actual influence on people’s viewing habits. Like I said, you’re lucky to complete a fraction of the reviews you set out to write each month, and they inevitably come far too late to be useful to anyone.

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                  • The reviews are just a means to an edutainment end. Why are you so hung up on them? It’s a niche I popularized and dominate, but it’s not like Crymore would die without any. The Aniblog Tourney is more than enough content, right guys?

                    I don’t wanna get into my metrics for success (it mostly revolves around how mad I make idiots and how hot I get the ladies with my sagey charm), but I’m pretty happy with how it’s going. If you aren’t, I must inform you you’re just going to have to deal with it.

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              • I post here, though I don’t give a rat’s ass about his opinion, so it wouldn’t bother me if he criticised me (because he’d be wrong, of course :D).

                Does that count?

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                  • So what’s your point exactly? What that says to me is that the remaining crowd is immune to trolling and still garners enjoyment/knowledge/whatever from sitting around in, what is essentially, a community of editors.

                    Has D_S unfairly made pariahs of certain posters on here, like yourself, Nevreen and seemingly the whole of Commie? Well, yes, but it’s his site, and frankly, his voice above the parapet is no different to any other voice in the crowd – it’s just that his site gets quite a lot of traffic. And good luck to him.

                    But even with a high hit counts, I seriously doubt D_S’s ability to dissuade anyone from visiting/leeching from Commie, or anywhere else for that matter. Your problem, unfortunately, is that he keeps leaving the bait for you and you and assorted commie members keep snapping it up (much to his glee because it makes it look like this blog actually has activity :P)

                    And I don’t think anyone took this site seriously to begin with. I mean, what retard would *review* fansubs? That’s almost as mad as producing subs in the first place.

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                    • >he keeps leaving the bait for you and you and assorted commie members keep snapping it up
                      It couldn’t possibly be the other way around!

                      Speaking of hit counts, something must be really wrong when Wolfram-Alpha shows this: http://milk.tea.jp/i/8C50Xz.png

                    • 1200? Hahahahahahahaha. Oh god, that’s so far off it’s ridiculous.

                      No, we’re nowhere near your range, lae.

                    • >But even with a high hit counts, I seriously doubt D_S’s ability to dissuade anyone from visiting/leeching from Commie, or anywhere else for that matter.

                      Of course not. I stopped worrying about that over a year ago.

                      I’ve just been posting on this article because I’m killing time at work and enjoy arguing on the Internet. If it were possible for me to be doing something more productive right now, believe me, I would be.

                      I’m also not very invested in Commie anymore (I formed my own group a year ago so the most I do at Commie is edit the occasional show, and I don’t really care about projects outside of my own) so it doesn’t really bother me what people say about the group. I just get annoyed by ignorance and terrible arguments, which this site tends to have in spades.

                    • I never said they were completely accurate. My point is that something’s wrong when my domain is on an equivalent plane with regards to traffic when it’s just my personal site.

                      And if we’re going to argue about reliability, you should know that not everyone can be tracked, especially as privacy becomes more of a concern for Internet users as the days go by. Just how many people do you think are using Adblock, Ghostory/Disconnect.me, NoScript and friends?e

                    • It was “Sounds like a Muslim name”, but thanks for trying anyway. Also, your take on racism is pretty bad. Seeing as how you thought it was racist before.

                    • Did.

                      [21:13] Sounds like a muslim
                      [21:13] are you for real
                      [21:14] name*

                      In which I corrected myself later on because I left the sentence unfinished. Though, I should’ve expected such since the great duplex went all quiet afterwards! The motto of Commie: “WE SHALL ONLY COPY AND PASTE SOME OF THE COMMENTS”.

                      You may want to triple check xxx logs.

                    • Oh please. If that in any means sounds like I’m being discriminatory, then you have another thing coming for you. In no way does “Sounds like a Muslim name” mean it’s discriminatory, because in fact, the name does sound like it. If I wanted to be discriminatory I would’ve said something worse, which I wouldn’t have. Get that shit out of your ass, duplex.

                    • I’m curious as to how having a “Muslim name” is relevant to a conversation insulting someone except to implicate negative things about the person.

                    • Especially when said conversation devolves into what seems to be a joke implying that lae is an Islamic terrorist.

                    • >I’m curious as to how having a “Muslim name” is relevant to a conversation insulting someone except to implicate negative things about the person.

                      I’m also curious what race the person is when the name I see doesn’t sound American, etc. Is it that hard, or you going to consider this “racism” too?

                      >Especially when said conversation devolves into what seems to be a joke implying that lae is an Islamic terrorist.

                      What? I’ve never even had that thought cross my mind. You’re mentally retarded if you think what I said comes off as devolving into a joke implying that he’s a terrorist. Duplex, get yourself checked out, and when you do, come back, ‘kay?

                    • >I’m also curious what race the person is when the name I see doesn’t sound American, etc.
                      American isn’t a language. Neither is Muslim. They don’t have anything to do with race, either.

                      >You’re mentally retarded if you think what I said comes off as devolving into a joke implying that he’s a terrorist.
                      That’s why I said conversation, which did eventually devolve to the point where D_S made a joke about lae “blowing him up” shortly after you made your asinine comment.

                    • What? They never said American was a language. It’s no different than saying “that name doesn’t sound British.”

                    • >That’s why I said conversation, which did eventually devolve to the point where D_S made a joke about lae “blowing him up” shortly after you made your asinine comment.

                      Again, making yourself look stupid. Let’s see… You think I’m being racist/discriminating because I said “Sounds like a Muslim name.” And now you bring up what D_S said, which I never even saw in the first place.

                      >American isn’t a language. Neither is Muslim. They don’t have anything to do with race, either.

                      WELL, NO SHIT. It’s like saying “That name doesn’t sound German, etc.” Holy fuck, Duplex. Please… I think the Anon guy said it for me already.

                    • I don’t see the problem you have with my comments, duplex. Literally every Muslim ever is a suicide bomber. All 2 billion-some. I wasn’t joking; I was stating objective fact.

                    • Your taste in jokes aside, assuming someone is Muslim (and thus “an asshole”) from their name is also pretty poor. I think that chatlog is what finally convinced me that you are a genuinely reprehensible person instead of just a guy who likes to act edgy on the Internet.

                      In all honesty, I regret ever being friendly with you.

                    • My god. I’ve… I’ve seen the light.

                      Everyone, I didn’t realize that offensive remarks could be so offensive. I’m deeply ashamed of myself and must request forgiveness from everyone I’ve ever wounded with this, the only mean thing I’ve ever said. As a means of atonement, Crymore will take care of all medical expenses related to butt-salving cream for those affected. I realize this may bankrupt Crymore, due to the vast number of people wounded by my cruel remarks, but it’s the right thing to do.

                      I humbly apologize. Let me know if there is anything I can do to heal the wound in your heart that I have caused with my – and I hesitate to use such a harsh term – baka comment. I will do everything I can to make it up to those I have harmed.

                    • >They never said American was a language.
                      The point is that names do not have any property, like language, that would make them “sound American”.

                      >It’s no different than saying “that name doesn’t sound British.”
                      Of course not, because that’s just as dumb.

                      >You think I’m being racist/discriminating because I said “Sounds like a Muslim name.”
                      In the context of a conversation where the person in question is being disparaged (including terrorist jokes), most people would believe so.

                      >It’s like saying “That name doesn’t sound German, etc.”
                      See first quote.

                    • >In the context of a conversation where the person in question is being disparaged (including terrorist jokes), most people would believe so.

                      Lol. W/e, I think I’ve wasted enough time and proven my point already that I wasn’t aiming towards being “Discriminate and racist.”

                    • Hey, at the end of the day, I’m just glad Solaristics didn’t edit the one good show from Anime-Koi.

                    • Am I supposed to be offended? Also, none of the shows are even good. Though, I could make the same comments toward a lot of Commie editors, but I’ll pass on that since it’s already shown in quite a few reviews on this site.

                    • Oh and, just to clarify, it’s a french word as well not my legal name. I’ve never heard of anyone actually having that name. I’m also not Muslim.

        • >Because you are. You’re taking money from people with a “hey we’re giving you free anime so why not reciprocate with your wallet?” pitch.

          C’mon Bitter_Sage, I know that you’re a fucking faggot but don’t act like a bitch.

          Commie is never(or forced) paid by the users. The user itself give money to commie by donations or joining the pool.

          >I’d have a problem with that if you were actually fansubbers, but you guys release what are essentially straight rips and act like you’ve actually done anything worthwhile, which makes it worse. You are a cancer.
          >You are a cancer.

          Look who’s talking. HAHAHAHA.

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          • We don’t even get money from the pool. It goes to lae, who uses it to keep the pool running. Also, the amount the pool makes isn’t proportional to the number of people using it since it doesn’t actually come from anyone.

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  38. >Nyaa mods trying to destroy small groups on Nyaa by refusing trusted status and removing some that already had trusted.
    >Commie actually trying to trick people into giving them money.
    Fuck I take a 4 month break from anime and this is what I come back to?

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    • Not only does Nyaa refuse to give trusted status to smaller groups, they also give A+ status to shitty minimalistic CR edits like this.

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      • Please point me to a better release for this show.

        And no, a couple of edits you disagree with does not make HS better.

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        • So the rule is that as long as you produce something better than the original simulcast script and no other group is doing it, you will definitely get A+ status? And this applies to all groups, does it?

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          • It applies to any group I or the other staff trust to not make the original significantly worse. We generally only review shows from around episode 2-4 (A+ decisions made after that are pretty pointless except as vanity), so if you’d like a group to be considered next season, flag one of their releases at around that point and I’ll take a look at it.

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            • Of course, Commie releases don’t have to be marked for review, do they? They just get slapped with with A+ status as soon as they’re released.

              >It applies to any group I or the other staff trust to not make the original significantly worse.

              And this comes back to you attempting to destroy or hold back smaller groups. I bet there are certain groups that you never bother to look at for A+ status. Because you’ve never heard of them, or they’ve produced poor stuff in the past, you just ignore them, rather than judge them on a release-by-release basis.

              I’m sure there are plenty of other groups who have edited simulcast scripts and provided the sole release for a show, but you’ve never bothered to consider them for A+ (or in some cases, even elevate those groups to trusted), whilst you automatically mark the same sorts of releases as A+ for Commie or any of the other bigger groups that are connected to Nyaa.

              Just another example of what a biased circlejerk Nyaa is.

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              • Commie usually gets reviewed because I watch a lot of their stuff anyway. Unfortunately, I am just one person and a lot of releases come out every season. It isn’t feasible for me to download and watch every single one.

                If you guys aren’t willing to spend five minutes of your time marking the releases you think are worthy, I don’t see why I should have to spend hours of mine watching every single one that comes in. You have only yourselves to blame.

                Insulting me is a great way to get me to do things for you, by the way, so keep it up!

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                • >Insulting me is a great way to get me to do things for you, by the way, so keep it up!

                  The only thing I want you to do for me is to judge releases fairly… which I would think would be a given.

                  Do you also not give groups A+ status if you have a personal grudge against either the members of a group or the person who requested a release be reviewed for A+ designation? I don’t think that’s very fair at all.

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                  • >Do you also not give groups A+ status if you have a personal grudge against either the members of a group or the person who requested a release be reviewed for A+ designation? I don’t think that’s very fair at all.

                    No, not really? I’ve supported A+ ratings for a number of groups I don’t particularly like.

                    If you want a group reviewed for A+, flag it.

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                    • Haha. You’re funny, Xythar. I already flagged small groups for releasing Wake Up, Girls and Nobunagun. But they still haven’t got A+.
                      Why? Cuz that cartoons is sucks? Cuz you didn’t know them? Cuz their works is shit?
                      Commie’s editing is also shit, btw.

                    • Which groups? They’re not flagged now, so I assume someone else already reviewed them.

                      Though I’m not sure why I’m even bothering to answer you seriously.

                    • >If you want a group reviewed for A+, flag it.
                      >If you guys aren’t willing to spend five minutes of your time marking the releases you think are worthy, I don’t see why I should have to spend hours of mine watching every single one that comes in. You have only yourselves to blame.
                      >so if you’d like a group to be considered next season, flag one of their releases at around that point and I’ll take a look at it.

                      So from these comments, it’s pretty clear that you want people to mark releases for A+ consideration if they want them to be given it, right? Because that’s the only way you’ll consider them.

                      Then how come Herkz is telling people not to mark airing shows for A+ consideration? Why is he saying Nyaa will review every release regardless? Has Nyaa changed its policies, or were you lying? Are you indeed reviewing every group’s releases for every show, Xythar?

        • HS is faster and has a readable font. The choice is obvious. Well, maybe not to someone who thinks edits of this quality deserve an A+ designation, but to anyone literate the decision isn’t hard to make.

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          • Speed is generally not considered except as a tiebreaker.
            Commie’s font is perfectly readable and I’ve had no major complaints with their script over the nine episodes I’ve watched. They also have songs and typesetting, which HS lacks, and improved timing and formatting (CR still use shitty line splits in basically everything they sub).

            Easy choice.

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                  • Yeah, same here. The last show I tried to watch HS for was Little Busters Refrain, and I got fed up within two or three episodes and decided to just wait a week for FFF for the rest of the season.

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            • >Commie’s font is perfectly readable
              So is HS
              >I’ve had no major complaints with their script
              Of course not it’s just CR-honorifics for every show they/you edit.
              >They also have songs
              fucking weeaboos
              >and typesetting
              Ok so 1 point for Commie
              >improved timing and formatting
              If by improved timing you mean making it almost impossible to read without pausing you’re right
              >(CR still use shitty line splits in basically everything they sub).
              Making their subs easier to read.

              So Commie got typesetting and song translations. HS is faster, don’t use awful fonts just to troll you and their subs are easier to read.

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              • It’s clear you haven’t even compared releases for this show, so I hope you’ll understand why I’m ignoring your opinion.

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                • >I hope you’ll understand why I’m ignoring your opinion.
                  I’m used to people from Commie just ignoring any kind of criticism so it’s ok Xythar whatever makes your life easier.
                  Actually I have to ask are you still part of Commie? And by commie I mean actual Commie and not Commie 2.0(Vivid).

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                  • I edit shows for them every now and then, so yes. I don’t take an active role in running the group or managing projects that I’m not involved with, though.

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              • >So is HS
                HS font is pretty shit too.
                >They have songs
                People like having songs. Liking them doesn’t make you a “weeaboo”
                >Making their subs easier to read
                No. Line splits are fucking terrible most of the time. There are some good line splits and a lot of bad ones from CR.

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            • >Commie’s font is perfectly readable
              So is comic sans. Also the color choices are shit, the lyric positiong is shit, the title is laid out like shit, and the script reads like shit.

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              • Well, I’ll defer to you on this one, because after your Yozakura Quartet release, it’s clear that you’re the expert on shit here.

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                • If I ever positioned my YZQ release as anything other than an emergency edit of a vaguely coherent script in emergency sub mode while Cthuko got their shit together, your argument would be halfway valid.

                  Except, unfortunately for you, I never did that. So hey.

                  (Also D-frag is 400 lines an episode, not 500 as you keep trying to tell people. <3)

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                  • Oh no, my dreadful linecount lies exposed!

                    But goodness me, you seem to have misinterpreted my comment as a mere ad hominem. It certainly isn’t. You see, normally if someone made a comment calling every aspect of a release “shit” with no elaboration, I would call them out for making a worthless argument that really serves no purpose other than to take up space on the Internet, much as they themselves really serve no purpose other than to use up of our Earth’s valuable oxygen and water supply.

                    But that is clearly not the case here, because based on every single aspect of that release you chose to put out to the public for people to download, it is very clear that you know exactly what “shit” looks like.

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                    • Eh, see, you seem to be taking a subjective thing (an opinion) and trying to make it objective.

                      That really doesn’t work.

                      Subjectivity incoming:

                      I don’t like brown fonts, the color is ugly, doesn’t really match -anything- in the show. The font itself, whatever, I’ve seen worse, I’ve seen better.

                      The opening song style, the color is fine, but the font is wonky, somewhat difficult to read, the whole thing seems a bit arbitrary.

                      The title scroll, Hm, thanks for taking up half the goddamn screen with your typeset. Sasuga typesetter. (It’s a good effort, just doesn’t fit very well.)

                      Script: Well, if what DS pointed out is any indication, then there are more problems with the script than with the EP1 script I looked at. Didn’t feel (to me) that individual characters were conveyed well, overall Ep1 seemed (to me) to be somewhat unnecessarily wordy, but that just may be me being used to CR’s style.

                      ED: Why change the entire style of the lyrics for not very many lines? IDGI.

                    • Wow, so “shit” actually means “Eh, it’s okay, but not perfect. I’ve seen worse, I’ve seen better.”

                      I’m glad I was able to get a subject matter expert like yourself to clarify that for me.

                    • You know that it’s literally coloured like shit, right? Shit as in fecal matter, not the subjective category.

                      Come on Xythar, fansubbers call things “shit” that really aren’t that shit. You do it, I do it, we all do it. Except nobody outside of the subber circlejerk actually cares about any of this.

                    • Dialogue lines haven’t gone over 430, though if you count TS you might have been able to push 500.

                    • That’s straight from our episode 1 script, which has 29 signs. I’ll let you work out what 545-29 is.

                      It’s almost like linecount differs depending on the translator and how much they like to split lines and my point was that D-Frag is a consistently dialogue-heavy show any way you slice it. But no, let’s split hairs on pointless details.

                    • I know, let’s fall for very obvious bait and argue about things that really have no bearing on anything aside from how much you enjoy line splitting!

                    • Hey, making you seem like a 12 year old is also free. Actually, I’m up a few cheap laughs, so you could say I’ve actually turned a profit!

                    • >Making you look dumb on the internet is free, so I really don’t mind.

                      Never change mr Xythar, never change <3

                • Oh wait, is this a retort to a perceived “I care about $color status on nya” Because

                  >$color status on nya
                  >2014

                  Yeah, no, try again.

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                • Mostly to run this shit into the ground, and :justpost:.

                  Nya is…
                  – a torrent tracker
                  – a website
                  – appears to be decently coded
                  – Something I enjoy. <3

                  Status on Nya means…
                  – absolutely nothing approximately 98% of the time.
                  – that is, to the viewer it generally means nothing
                  – to the group it may be a source of pride. But like many things on the internet, this is ephemeral at best.
                  – tl;dr, epeen.

                  Nya mods, like mods are wont to…
                  – circlejerk.
                  – Not that this is a bad thing.
                  – I mean seriously, if you tell me you don't circlejerk you're a big fat liar.
                  – SA mods circlejerk.
                  – Crymore (DS and whoever else posts here) circlejerks.
                  – This is what people do, this is fairly normal. Don't be ashamed.

                  Anybody who actually cares about status on nya…
                  – is a fansubber.
                  – is the nya mods.
                  – actively cares about fansubbing.

                  Fansubbing is…
                  – dead.
                  – In the traditional sense, it really is. Fan-produced subs of *unlicensed* shows don't really happen all that much anymore. I think there's only one group doing that this season, and it's motherfucking DoReMi.

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          • The CR script for this show has no honorifics to begin with.

            But I guess expecting people to bring an informed opinion to the discussion instead of biased knee-jerking is too much to hope for.

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              • I really don’t care how much the original script was changed in a release. I’m only concerned with the end product.

                Some scripts need less editing than others, and some editors edit less than others. It’s entirely their preference.

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  47. I saw this had 404 comments and felt compelled to ask…

    Tears not found?
    Hyobu not found?
    Life not found?
    Reviews not found?
    Commie ppl not found?
    Fucks not found?
    Joke not found?

    Choose whichever makes you feel better!

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  49. I literally sat down and read all the posts in this article. I also feel proud but also know I won’t be getting that hour of my life back.

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