Fansub Review: [IchigoHaatsu] Brothers Conflict (Episode 02)

July 11, 2013July 11, 2013 by Dark_Sage

This post was written by Dark_Sage. He is Dark_Sage.

This is how a language dies. Not with a bang, but with a fansub.

Release Information

Visual Quality

Script Quality

Results

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (268 MB, 8-bit)

Japanesiness: Yes.

English style: IchigoHaatsu-style English.

Encoding details: http://pastebin.com/mYAxHKf0

Speed: Quick (<48 hours)

Note: IchigoHaatsu is name of the person who translated this (and did everything but the timing/encoding). She also decided to name her group after herself. Fansubber humility.

External links.

Group website: http://ichigohaatsu.livejournal.com/

IRC channel: N/A

Fansub.co screenshot comparisons: N/A

Subbusu screenshot comparisons: N/A

Visual Review

Karaoke.

Opening. She just used her main episode dialogue font here. It works with a similar degree of effectiveness: none at all.

Rating: Terrible.

Ending. See above.

Rating: Terrible.

Typesetting.

The RNG gods weren’t kind to Ichigo when she rolled her INT stat.

Other.

The entire release is watermarked. You can disable it by skipping to any part of the episode, since the watermark is only softsubbed. But if you start the episode up and don’t skip around any, yeah, it’s gonna stick there throughout the show.

I think the only reason the watermark is softsubbed is because Ichigo doesn’t know how to hardsub shit. Come on, girl

And with credits that garish… Goddamn, you have to be really fucking full of yourself to think that’s acceptable to shove on the screen for 10 goddamn seconds.

The main script font is terrible and the same color is used for every line, regardless of any confusion this will result in (and it resulted in a LOT of confusion in Ichigo’s episode 1 release).

Script Review

How dough I spel?

No.

Also no.

What’s an grammerz

capitaLization is Consistently incorrect. (Protip: you’d capitalize “sis” whenever it substitutes for her name in this release.)

“If I use both ‘a’ and ‘an’, I can’t be wrong!”

Nice try, IchigoHaatsu, but it doesn’t quite work that way.

Punctuation, is hard.?

But my dear, you already have.

I can’t even begin to comprehend the logic behind this. Does IchigoHaatsu think commas function the same as periods? This is what happens when people learn English from fansubs.

Do note that this specific issue happens very often throughout the release.

Oh, you thought the header for this section was a humorous exaggeration? Joke’s on you.

If I had a dollar for every comma this release misused, I’d have enough roofies to make sure this translator never woke up again.

General What

How?

It’s difficult to determine which is the most egregious mistake here. Is it the dull language that pervades this line (and the entire release)? The ridiculous hodgepodge of three sentences into one line? The improper word repetition? Or is it the “high spec wolves” ‘translation’?

Goddamn, Ichigo, I don’t fucking know. You’ve dumbed down your release to the point that any analysis of it will invariably make jello of the reviewer’s brain. (I’m halfway to lemon-lime right now.)

Please stop.

No, actually she made it for Subaru.

It would be “Or would you prefer to be the one who’s fed?”

Tenses and general language use are broken throughout this release.

With writing skills like these, Ichigo could work for Blood on the Dance Floor.

I’m beginning to run out of tears.

I think we both know the only way out of this is the right side of a barrel.

Results

Watchability: Watch it raw instead.

Visual grade: F

Script grade: F

Overall grade: F

This release is a failure by any metric of success you wish to use. Unless your metric of success is “fails miserably”. Then IchigoHaatsu’s release may be considered the most successful fansub of the season (so far).

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51 thoughts on “Fansub Review: [IchigoHaatsu] Brothers Conflict (Episode 02)”

Solaristics

July 11, 2013 at 11:28 am

And it’s the only group doing it too, go figure.
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- stgmefly
  
  July 11, 2013 at 11:36 am
  
  gg fansubbing
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  - Ashes
    
    July 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm
    
    whhut? you mean GG’s doing one? or are you implying that this is a gg-ish fansub?
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- fohfuu
  
  July 20, 2013 at 4:17 pm
  
  HorribleSubs is doing it. Pretty good typesetting, too (for them, anyway).
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stgmefly

July 11, 2013 at 11:37 am

This isn’t at all relevant to the post but how do I get in the kawaii irc-chan D_S-sensei ;-;
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- rarely_upset
  
  July 11, 2013 at 12:33 pm
  
  1) install hexchat
  2) open hexchat and pick nick/username/real name, which can be just about anything
  3) scroll down the network list to rizon or just click the irc:// link up top.
  4) type in ‘/join #whine-subs’ or already be there if you clicked the link
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  - stgmefly
    
    July 11, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    
    Rarely <3
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Justaway

July 11, 2013 at 11:51 am

Is it really episode 1? These screens looks new to me(
By the way, better choice here – watch raws or instant drop.
Also, there is some “new” fansub group… But I’m too scared to download it.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=451388
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- kokujin-kun
  
  July 11, 2013 at 12:22 pm
  
  Yeah, it’s the second episode, I just checked the script at Animetosho. And even if the subs are perfect, this is the worst fucking show of the season, trust me.
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  - Wind
    
    July 11, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    
    +1 Just like amnesia all over again, but with more guys
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  - Dark_Sage
    
    July 11, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    
    Woulda been easier to check what I named the screenshots. :s
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    - kokujin-kun
      
      July 11, 2013 at 1:39 pm
      
      Quiet, you.
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  - Justaway
    
    July 11, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    
    Yep, I saw other animes in this show. Amnesia, Karneval and probably other otome shit that I didn’t watched. This show just combine all of them into some shit.
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    - Kiraly
      
      July 11, 2013 at 2:33 pm
      
      Karneval was primarily action/adventure, and Amnesia looked like it ought to have been some sort Higurashi-esque mystery.
      
      Brothers Coflict… isn’t. Either.
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    - Solaristics
      
      July 11, 2013 at 2:37 pm
      
      Karneval was actually fine.
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  - corocoro
    
    July 12, 2013 at 10:35 am
    
    Worse than RKB SS? That can’t be!
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- Dark_Sage
  
  July 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm
  
  Yeah, my bad. This is episode 2.
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  - denpa
    
    July 11, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    
    I didn’t know you made mistakes, Dark_Sage. I’m disappointed. Now I wonder how many mistakes you miss when you review.
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  - Ryuk
    
    July 11, 2013 at 4:37 pm
    
    Knowing you made a error in the title, you still didn’t change it. :effort: :lazy:
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    - Dark_Sage
      
      July 11, 2013 at 8:29 pm
      
      Updating posts on my phone is risky. Saved it for when I got back to my place.
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- stgmefly
  
  July 14, 2013 at 11:01 pm
  
  http://puu.sh/3DaLu.jpg
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Nyangoro

July 11, 2013 at 1:02 pm

Requesting proper jello order from least jello to most jello.

Also requesting that jello be part of the rating.
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mahay

July 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm

It’s been a while since I’ve got my Hadena-tier review fix. My sincerest thanks, D_S.
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AnimeNOW

July 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm

I had to time it without a script ( ¬‿¬)
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FalseDawn

July 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm

I’m gonna call this now: This looks like a scanlating tl who’s tried to make the jump to fansubbing – maybe just for Brothers Conflict. Either that, or from the drama scene – those are the only two areas of subbing I can think of that’d allow stupid things like watermarks, etc. without a massive backlash from people who know better.
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- Kiraly
  
  July 11, 2013 at 5:00 pm
  
  Or foreign language subs, though the scanlation tl sounds more likely.
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- AnimeNOW
  
  July 11, 2013 at 5:12 pm
  
  If I’m correct this is why there is a watermark:
  This release was originally only suppose to be released on Ichigo’s livejournal where she/he (I’ve been running into a lot of transgenders lately) would share the script only (hardsubbed encode later on the week.) Someone made a torrent on Nyaa muxing the script and RAW which Ichigo had no idea about it till finding out in the livejournal comment section.
  
  TL;DR
  It’s a livejournal thing(?)
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  - FalseDawn
    
    July 11, 2013 at 5:19 pm
    
    So wait, someone muxed in the script but didn’t think to take out the watermark? -___-
    
    If anything, that’s worse.
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  - Kiraly
    
    July 11, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    
    Livejournal communities still exist? Oh man that brings back memories. I thought everyone had long moved to that confounding maze of gifs and illegal porn called tumblr.
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  - Anon
    
    July 11, 2013 at 5:33 pm
    
    But you’re their timer, so you should have known about it?
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  - that guy
    
    July 11, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    
    You should be ashamed to have been the timer for this James, this was terrible, just as bad as your usual stuff but now with all the responsibility absolved.
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    - Ryuk
      
      July 11, 2013 at 7:15 pm
      
      What’s your problem… Why do you always pick on AnimeNOW? I don’t see anything he did wrong.
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      - Anonymous
        
        July 11, 2013 at 8:47 pm
        
        I don’t see anything you grammared right.
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      - Torn
        
        July 11, 2013 at 10:31 pm
        
        I find it hilarious that he’s still chewing AN out like this.
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        stgmefly
        
        July 11, 2013 at 10:55 pm
        
        It’s even more hilarious when you have no idea why… Wait no it isn’t
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Anon

July 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm

http://ichigohaatsu.livejournal.com/63699.html
Oh look, now they’re hardsubbing because someone was kind enough to remove the annoying watermark: http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=451164
They seem rather butthurt.
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- Anon
  
  July 11, 2013 at 5:31 pm
  
  In addition, it seem that the DDL links posted on that LJ are all adfly links. Apparently they’re trying to make money off of this!
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- teclas
  
  July 11, 2013 at 7:50 pm
  
  Damn, I wish I had a LJ account to comment. I love flame wars.
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zanon

July 11, 2013 at 7:34 pm

The RNG gods weren’t kind to Ichigo

Nah D_S, seems just as likely she decided that Barbarian was the right class for fansubbing and used INT as the dump stat.
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- FalseDawn
  
  July 12, 2013 at 7:48 pm
  
  It must be hard to type translations with those big muscly hands…
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Ashes

July 11, 2013 at 10:42 pm

I do think I would need a subtitle editor to fix the lines as well as add those chinese texts missing from episode 1… I just need D_S’s help for proper translation though..
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- Ashes
  
  July 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm
  
  Wait a minute, I didn’t see that, another fansub group is doing it? D_S how was the new fansub group doing? Is it just a rip of Ichigo?
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dark_sage_has_pretty_eyes_desu

July 11, 2013 at 11:14 pm

http://oi39.tinypic.com/5ufpqs.jpg
huehuehuehue
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D2K

July 12, 2013 at 7:17 pm

So, can we say that this series deserves these subtitles?.
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- Dark_Sage
  
  July 12, 2013 at 7:17 pm
  
  No series deserves these subtitles.
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  - D2K
    
    July 12, 2013 at 9:47 pm
    
    Your previous answer was way better.
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    - Dark_Sage
      
      July 12, 2013 at 9:48 pm
      
      You’ve seen too much.
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D2K

July 12, 2013 at 9:48 pm

I hate when I type twice the same -_-
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- Dark_Sage
  
  July 12, 2013 at 9:53 pm
  
  Fix’d :3
  
  (For future typos, just do the standard “*” kinda fix notation and I’ll fix it and delete the “*” post.)
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  - D2K
    
    July 13, 2013 at 4:55 am
    
    Thank you, almighty sir.
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jimmy

July 15, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Oh shit, reading this review makes suffering through the episode worthwhile. Thank you, Dark_Sage.
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