14 thoughts on “Fansub Review: [Kaitou] Blood Lad (Episode 05)”

1. I miss your Hadena reviews. :(

   But wait, there might be a SubDESU one once you get to reviewing DxD NEW. Okay, I’m fine again.

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2. HS review coming up next or is this it?

   It’s not like the final verdict is gonna change, though…

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   • Oni was an official subs edit and the result is clear, so yeah, not going to bother.

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3. >Someone wanna explain the logic behind the capitalization?

   All the words in katakana are in all caps. I remember seeing this style a lot in the past and it’s a shame it isn’t more common now, since I find it pretty charming.

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   • My understanding was that this was only done when the katakana in question was mimicking an English word, not for every single instance of the syllabary.

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     • Some people do it for all katakana. Lots of lyrics entries on animelyrics (for example, http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/ccsakura/ccscycm.htm) do it. Katakana in lyrics for words not normally in katakana draws attention to it, and as ugly as it may be sometimes, all caps does a similar thing.

       And yes, I know that animelyrics isn’t the OED, but this is otaku-style transliterations we’re talking about, where we don’t even use standard standards (like how we use Senjougahara instead of Senjogahara or Senjyogahara).

       Also, I think it makes more sense to apply it either to all katakana or to no katakana. The only time you use it for Engrish is when the word is being sounded out in kana-syllables, in which case it’s almost like a loan word, which basically means it’s Japanese, which basically means it’s the same as “kizuna”. If it’s the “actually trying to sound like English” Engrish, then you just spell it as it would be in English and don’t all-caps it (and maybe capitalize the first word of the phrase).

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       • Oh, and uh, I meant this more to be address to Dark_Sage’s thing down in the comments about how all-capsing things was “wrong”, not as a direct reply to you, Nyangoro, so don’t feel like I’m directing words and feelings at you.

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   • Hell no! All-caps looks fucking retarded – especially if it’s applied to random words like “kizuna”, which definitely isn’t English.

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     • Why would it be English? It’s Japanese romaji. Words written in kata aren’t always English. They could be from other langauges, as far as I know. Also, sometimes the Japanese just put random words in kata for effect.

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       • Also, the case here seems to be the latter. It was just written in kata for effect, it seems. I looked the word up on both weblio and jisho. http://puu.sh/4bozL.png http://puu.sh/4boBr.png

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4. http://pastebin.com/HR3dbBZb
   As for the Funimation thing, I like it since it’s less distracting than putting a different color right over it. Also, the voices were heard in the background, so they aren’t even main dialogue.
   As for the Ending karaoke- it was because of the Sakuras flying around: http://i.imgur.com/fwZHx3s.jpg
   And it changes to black feathers at the end.
   There was also the bones effect: http://i.imgur.com/ybEOPUL.jpg
   All the words in katakana are in all caps.
   It’s a style thing; many groups have used it as Etoce said, but whatever.

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   • I don’t hate you for your naivete, but I do hate you for making me waste some of my weekend on this shit.

     I’m only going to address that which you disagreed with me about. Also, please note that these reviews are primarily intended for people who can speak English. I try to keep it a low level, but there’s only so low I can go.

     1. I do actually know my slang, and “up the duff” is not slang in my country. However, I also do quite a bit of research for these reviews to ensure I’m not mistaken. My problem is not with your use of British expressions in what is presumably and American English release (that critique would be more justified in a more competent release). Rather, your absurd capitalization and stale delivery of what’s supposed to be a humorous line is. Also, it would be “conceived”, not “conceiving”.

     2. My problem is not with her current magic being a mixture from two different demons. It’s the phrasing I take issue with. Your release implies all the magic in her body is from a different demon AND that all that magic from the other demon is somehow a mixture. Wrong.

     3. No, the phrasing doesn’t work that way. As written, you’re saying that a vampire’s magic has powers. Close, but wrong (and not even close from an English perspective). It’s the wielder of said magic that has powers.

     4. Mexed missages. If it’s a “fact”, then where does “supposedly” come in? “The fact that supposedly” is wrong in this context. It would be right if it were written, for example, as “The fact that the supposedly English-speaking fansub group leader Kaitou_Kid has never so much as even read a children’s book in English cannot be denied.”

     5. “a pure-blooded vampire relative” makes it sound like he’s a relative of the vampire race. Not only is that a stupid line to write, it’s also completely beside the point which is that he’s their brother. That’s what’s supposed to be conveyed to the viewer there.

     6. “mail order” in that context would be used as an adjective. However, you have no noun for it to modify, so it’s wrong.

     7. Plain is not the same as plain old. I went a bit into this in Oni’s review, but if you didn’t get what I was saying here, I doubt you’d understand my critiques of their release either.

     8. “my body needs higher quality parts or my body won’t match”? Really? The whole point of that motherfucker is that his body parts aren’t supposed to match — he just goes around, taking parts at random from people.

     9. No, that’s not stressing the point, that’s stressing out people who like English. It is poorly phrased and redundant.

     10. What are you talking about?

     Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.25,0:03:50.00,Default,,0,0,0,,Is it okay to apply the rules of the demon world?
     Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.29,0:03:53.12,Default,,0,0,0,,The rule where once you’ve entered another person’s territory,
     Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.16,0:03:56.04,Default,,0,0,0,,you can’t complain what they do to you.

     That’s all I’m seeing for rules. Or is there another part of the episode you’re talking about? It’s a moot point, since you’d be wrong for other reasons, including characterization and line flow, but I want to see where you’re pulling this from.

     12. You said he was expecting a reaction. What reaction? And keep in mind you didn’t say “Why didn’t you react?”, he was asking why wasn’t there a reaction — in the sense that he was expecting a reaction from the wrist itself. To highlight the absurdity of your dialogue, as well as to illustrate to the reader that I am as random as a penguin, I interpreted his statement as one of expecting music and lights to burst forth from Braz’s wrist.

     13. I don’t think you understand what incompetent means. The point is that he can’t tell the difference between their levels of strength and that he will be able to when he gets the bullet removed from his heart. That’s the point of this scene — “You’re weak now as you just painfully illustrated to me, but I can make you stronger. ”

     14. Then say that. In English.

     15. He’s holding a metal pipe. A night stick is visibly closer to what he has, which I guess means the joke works better in English than in Japanese. Awesome. Also, lipstick is a cosmetic.

     16. Well, first I’d ask your TL what the hell the line was supposed to say. But since your TL just copied the line from Viz

     http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Oni_Blood_Lad_-_05_720pE86E5C9B.mkv_snapshot_19.05_2013.08.22_18.28.04.jpg

     I’d say even they don’t know. If I had to guess, I’d say he’s going for the “Let’s not complicate the deal any further by adding additional requirements.” Something along those lines.

     That you actually think this release was good and couldn’t understand any of my criticisms without having me painfully spell them out to you speaks volumes as to your value as a fansubber. Go back to subbing in your native language. English subs are clearly not the place for you.

     Also:
     Your kfx doesn’t look like sakura. Hatsuyuki’s leader could probably point you in the right direction for that.
     Color differentiation is standard. Funi only does that because they don’t have anyone of worth working for them and can’t figure out how to put multiple colors in a script.
     Like Kizuna and Nyangoro already stated, you’re wrong. The Engrish is thrown into caps. Not shit like kizuna.

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   • Just to clarify the mail order point so that you understand the context that D_S is talking about:

     Mail order can indeed be used as a noun. However, the problem is in the kind of noun. See, mail order isn’t a “thing;” rather, it’s that odd little fourth noun category known as an “idea.” In this particular case, it’s more of a process (or even more simply, a means).

     As such, when you say that you purchased something “from a mail order,” it sounds off. You can’t go to a mail order place to pick up whatever item it is that you ordered. You can’t pick up a mail order in a store and check the price listings.

     If you want to use it that way, then you’re using it as a “thing,” which doesn’t work because (again) that’s not what it is. You’d have to use it as a modifier to an actual “thing” type noun. For example, you could pick up a mail order catalog at the store (or wherever it is you’re supposed to get those things).

     To use mail order by itself, you have to use a different preposition that can work for ideas: “By.” You can purchase something “by mail order.”

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     • I think all we really need to say here is that “mail order” is an uncountable noun, like “water” or “clothing.” You can’t use an indefinite article with an uncountable noun (“I have a clothing” is nonsense) unless you pair it with another, countable noun (“a glass of water” or “a clothes shop”).

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