Translation Review: [ChihiroDesuYo] Nourin – 02

June 29, 2014May 2, 2014 by kokujin-kun

This post was written by kokujin-kun. He is not Dark_Sage.

Who can best unfuck FUNi (plus why am I doing last season’s subs)?

Release Information

Translation

Other Observations

Final Grade

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (296MB, 10-bit)

Translation: Original Translation

Wap Level: Full Wap

English style: British English (I think).

Speed: Quick (<48 hours)

External links.

Group website: http://www.chihiro-subs.com http://damedesuyo.us

IRC channel: #[email protected] #[email protected].

Translation

Karaoke.

OP. First of all, this ranks as one of the most retarded kara effects I’ve ever seen. Good luck trying to read any of the romaji lyrics without pausing.

Anyhoo, they did pretty good considering they did this by ear. You’ll only get some bugs like areba being rendered as arete here.

ED. Similarly mimicopied. Speaking of “mimi,” if they translated what was in the romaji lyrics here without thinking, you’d get “The forbidden ear.”

Main Script.

They decided to render his Japanese translation as an English translation for some reason.

“Study time” should actually be “hands-on training” (geddit?)

Yeah, except the way they rendered his dialogue doesn’t make it seem like he did.

Wow, someone who can pluralize.

“Green Shop Tamo Ag.”

Tsukareru now means “bored.” Oh-kay.

Honestly, there are perfectly valid translations for jidori. You don’t have to leave it untranslated.

They decide to leave Torpedo Tits tongue-tied say-it-five-times-fast nyaas alone in this scene.

Agriculture school.

How the hell does gubutsu (“fool”) mean “snob”?

I already explained how whoever thinks this is a valid translation of this line should kill himself. Thankfully they changed it to “eggs made with birth control” in the batch.

Boob Bomb? What in the actual fuck?

Once again, akadama may refer to the reddish eggs that hens lay, or it may refer to droplets of blood they say appears in semen if you ejaculate too much.

Not that it really matters, but he says “morusua”.

That’s a valid a translation for the ousama geemu as I’ve ever seen.

A good example of translating two lines separately and not making sure they flow together.

The second line is fine, but imagine Raito finally getting the notebook back from the fake Kira. Would he say, “I got this?”

Talking –> Thinking. He was caught staring at her.

Misheard boku ga (“I am”) as bokura (“we”). Kounibyou is supposed to be “self-absorbed teenagers.”

“I’ll be taking care of these panties, or rather this feud.”

Forgot the “Calm down, Kousaku” part.

When they say the verb kaburu, it means the panties should be over their hearts like they do over their heads.

Other Observations

Why can’t the words fit inside the assigned spaces? Oh right, because of this shit.

And I’ll bet they spent a fuckton of time on those signs too. Such a waste.

One of the many reasons why I’m pretty sure an American wasn’t editing this.

They couldn’t move the offending typesetting off to the side somewhere, so they elected to put the dialogue subs right in the middle of the screen. Mazel tov.

A bunch of timing issues abound in this release.

Final Grade: B-

This is certainly better than the effort by FUNi, but they still had a handful of errors. Also, too, the fact that they both had the “eggs with condoms on” line makes me think that this translation is not as original as one might think.

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29 thoughts on “Translation Review: [ChihiroDesuYo] Nourin – 02”

puddi

May 2, 2014 at 11:47 pm

>not going for all according to keikaku

pls
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- kokujin-kun
  
  May 3, 2014 at 12:28 am
  
  Yeah, what did Mike Ehrmantraut say about taking half measures?
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Xythar

May 2, 2014 at 11:50 pm

>Why can’t the words fit inside the assigned spaces? Oh right, because of this shit.

Update your CCCP and/or switch to LAV Splitter. Haali is outdated and isn’t being supported by its author anymore, so there’s no reason to be using it anymore.
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- Xythar
  
  May 2, 2014 at 11:59 pm
  
  Actually, ignore that. I think they just forgot the font entirely.
  
  But yeah, MIME type should no longer matter. It’s just Haali that throws a bitchfit and refuses to load anything that isn’t muxed as a truetype.
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  - kokujin-kun
    
    May 3, 2014 at 12:15 am
    
    The way the font was typed in those lines made it so that they won’t show up anyway too.
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  - begna112
    
    May 3, 2014 at 12:22 am
    
    I dont think we forgot the font. It rendered for other people correctly. I’m sure we would have heard complaints if everyone had seen it that way. I was also under the impression that updated versions of all the major renderers supported opentype MIME types and only the .ttc and .otc fonts were problematic now.
    
    >makes me think that this translation is not as original as one might think.
    
    The TL was australia and would wake up at 3am the next day by the TS’ time to TL. So we ripped funi signs to work with until he could get on to TLC them. So we already had that wording before he even got on.
    
    >They decided to render his Japanese translation as an English translation for some reason.
    If I remember correctly, we decided to because for some reason he sounded out “wakkadonna” to her like she is retarded. Which would make more sense if he was explaining an English word to her not a Japanese one.
    
    >One of the many reasons why I’m pretty sure an American wasn’t editing this.
    Canadian. Don’t children’s stories often end in “happily ever after”? That was the intended effect.
    
    puddi:
    >not going for all according to keikaku
    TL actually put that in… it got QCd out cause no one else understood the reference. Was also fixed in batch.
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    - Xythar
      
      May 3, 2014 at 12:24 am
      
      Yeah I assumed it was a splitter derp but it doesn’t work for me on LAV either, so who knows.
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    - begna112
      
      May 3, 2014 at 12:28 am
      
      australian* derp
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    - kokujin-kun
      
      May 3, 2014 at 12:38 am
      
      >The TL was australia and would wake
      >up at 3am the next day by the
      >TS’ time to TL.
      
      Okay, that makes sense, actually.
      
      >he sounded out “wakkadonna” to her
      >like she is retarded
      
      That makes sense too.
      
      >“happily ever after”
      
      I was expecting “And we lived happily ever after.”
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      - begna112
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:43 am
        
        I think it can stand alone as “Happily ever after.”
        
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happily_Ever_After
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        kokujin-kun
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:53 am
        
        I’m sorry, but that phrase just looks weird as a standalone sentence.
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        Fuwaa
        
        May 3, 2014 at 9:18 am
        
        Dear begna,
        
        A link from the page you posted: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/happily_ever_after
        
        >adverb
        
        Even that doge meme would put a Such or So before that phrase…
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  - begna112
    
    May 3, 2014 at 12:27 am
    
    this is how it should appear: http://d.pr/i/qSFU
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    - kokujin-kun
      
      May 3, 2014 at 12:34 am
      
      And this is what I had to do to the line in order to make it show up
      
      http://i.imgur.com/tWOwFeS.jpg
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      - begna112
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:37 am
        
        that makes no sense unless you have another font overriding it isntalled on your computer. even looking more into the font properties shows that we have the correct name: http://d.pr/i/9DbA
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        Xythar
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:38 am
        
        Might depend on your system locale too. Mine is set to Japanese for :reasons: and I wouldn’t be surprised if kokujin’s was the same.
        
        Basically Japanese fonts are Satan and you should try to avoid using them whenever humanly possible.
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        begna112
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:41 am
        
        that’s definitely it. guess now we know. however, i’d guess that the majority (no one willing to take the time to complain at least) of people who watched it are using japanese locale or else they wouldn’t be using the subtitles. lol
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        Xythar
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:41 am
        
        You would be surprised!
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        Anon
        
        May 3, 2014 at 7:36 am
        
        I am never, ever going to switch my locale for any reason simply because it is too prone to fucking with things. I had a friend who had problems with it once and had to wipe his computer because he couldn’t make it go back and it broke so badly his computer was practically unusable. Then again, this was in Vista, but if I remember right 7 actually has a limit on the number of times you can switch.
        
        So yeah, if you need to change your locale, just use something like Locale Emulator, that’s easier.
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        kokujin-kun
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:42 am
        
        Mine’s set to Japanese in order to play eroge ┐(￣ー￣)┌
        
        But yeah, when I try to press the font button for that line, it tells me that font doesn’t exist for some reason
        
        http://i.imgur.com/DSL4w8g.jpg
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        begna112
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:45 am
        
        I long ago came to the conclusion that fonts suck. I will add this to my list of reasons why.
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        Xythar
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:41 am
        
        Yeah, renders OK on my media PC (which is set to English locale) so I’d say locale is to blame. Japanese fonts tend to have two different names based on locale because Windows is a pain in the ass.
        
        If you stop by #irrational-typesetting-wizardry they might be able to better advise you as to how to prevent this from happening again (I think you have to manually edit the font in Fontlab or the likes to change the names – either that, or see if the Japanese name works on both). Or just avoid using Japanese fonts whenever you can because this shit is messy.
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      - begna112
        
        May 3, 2014 at 12:39 am
        
        oh. your computer is set to japanese isn’t it? http://d.pr/i/UVnZ
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    - no
      
      May 3, 2014 at 9:41 am
      
      Use ‘TakaHandStd-Bold’ and I bet that all your problems will go away.
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      - ar
        
        May 3, 2014 at 10:10 am
        
        Until you use the script with libass and then it doesn’t work at all (probably). Postscript names don’t always work correctly with libass.
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dude

May 3, 2014 at 10:26 am

>Raito
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- kokujin-kun
  
  May 4, 2014 at 12:40 am
  
  Excuse me.
  
  Raito-kun.
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The_Pretender

May 3, 2014 at 10:44 am

OP. First of all, this ranks as one of the most retarded kara effects I’ve ever seen… – if you can’t feel the song, then you have no right to judge my kfx. It’s sung fast, so going slow is not right(each line is between 1.50 and ~ 3 seconds). Why don’t ya try singing fast pace song slowly? But then again, you there is big chance for you to not understand it. Not many can which is too bad. (It’s all about the pace and the rhythm. It’s simple, yet it’s not.)

P.S. And I know that no one likes the kfx, but me.
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- Anon
  
  May 3, 2014 at 11:14 am
  
  If it’s a fast song that necessitates a fast kara effect, choose an effect that doesn’t make the text disappear while you’re trying to read it. If the effect is fitting but not readable, then it doesn’t matter how good it is, it fails its purpose. There are plenty of options for interesting effects that work well for the song that can actually be read.
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